After reading articles in the NYTimes and WSJ this morning bout Rex's contract, I feel better than yesterday. The Jets can freely fire him if the Jets do not make the playoffs next year with only one year guaranteed after next year, and if they chose to retain him anyway and he fails, again, to make the playoffs in 2015, he can be cut without paying him for the 2016 season. If I understood that correctly. I do have a concern that in the broad middle, given Woody's manlove for Ryan, that even if the Jets do not get into the playoffs next year that Ryan will be retained for 15. Woody does not like to eat coaching contracts, so the perception goes, and 15 is a guaranteed year for Rex under this contract. But unlike first reports it really is a two year extension only if the Jets make the playoffs in either 14 or 15. I remain concerned that this was a Woody driven decision, but the third year downside is not as bad as initial reports indicated, so I feel somewhat better about this deal.
Abraham, I agree with all you said about Rex being inept at running the O, but I do have some hope that the FO may let Marty run it, and if that includes letting Marty have more say than Rex in setting the roster for O, then there is potential upside that could be significant. Of course what then are the Jets getting from their HC? And what about game time decisions on O, where Rex has shown himself to be inept more than not? Well Rex does run the D, and while it is a concern that the D has been in decline despite all those high draft picks, there are several promising young players on D. If Milliner improves, and they can upgrade the safeties, there is a good chance the D will be better next year. Rex is also the face of the franchise now that Muck isn't and Smith has not shown he should be. So Woody being focused on marketing, seems comfortable with Rex on that score as well. But it is odd having an HC whose value to the team goes up to the extent you remove him from responsiblity for the Offense. I am also often inclined to praise Marty, but ftr I am not completely confident in him, either. Sometimes he sounds way too all in on Smith. Has that been just a tactic to encourage Smith, or does Marty really think Smith is already established as the team's starting Qb going forward? IF that's what Marty thinks, I am concerned since I do not see Smith like that. Not yet, anyway. Going forward indeed is where we will in the next couple of months really see if the Jets will actually restructure the way the O is going to be managed. A key indicator will be whether they bring in real talent at Qb to challenge Smith. Another will be what they do with their high draft picks, and which go to the O. Ftr I can see them going D if BPA produces a safety, but God willing that will not be their first round pick. Anyway, while I agree Rex sucks at O and is responsible in large part for how unproductive the O is, I do see some reason for hope that the O can be turned around. Let Marty take a shot, and keep Rex out of it.
6-10 record in 2012 = overachieving "by a wide margin?" I'd hate to see the jets record if they underachieved.
Again, it was a spontaneous celebration by the PLAYERS in reaction that their coach would be coming back next year. So I guess we should blame MoWilk for all this, since he seems to be the main catalyst for the celebration in the video. Could have it been handled in a better way? Sure. Woody could have just waited until the press conferences and had Idzik announce the decision. That probably would have served the organization better. But to suggest that everyone in the organization jerked-off to an 8 win season is silly.
The speculation is that there are playoff incentives Rex needs to hit to get money. The next level of speculation is that he willingly took those incentives and his gambling on the team to make the playoffs so he will get that 3rd year of the contract. Yes, it's a smart contract I think. It appeases Rex because it is a multi-year extension with the potential to get incentives. But it also favors Woody/Idzik since it allows a very easy out if the team has a bad year next year. It comes off as a very well thought of deal where both sides get the most important thing they wanted.
we were legitimately in the playoff hunt in December despite: Losing best defensive player in football in week 3 losing our best offensive player in week 4, losing our most important offensive weapon for most of the year(Keller) having so many injuries on O that Chaz Schilens became a starter, Clyde Gates got major minutes. so yes 6 wins was a tremendous job. what he has done the last 2 years has been spectacular. he had talent when he came here and won w/ it, he lost talent and kept the team competitive and now hopefully we will have talent again soon and he'll win again.
I agree with this. It protects the team, but gives Rex and the players a chance to prove that the team (and most of the fan base) was right in keeping him as HC. For all our sakes, we'd better hope that Rex's belief in himself isn't delusional and he can truly deliver the goods, or that Woody is perhaps waking up to the possibility that Rex may not be the guy after all and be willing to fire him if the team doesn't produce as expected in 2014 and/or 2015.
I agree with both of you regarding Rex and his shortcomings. It's sad that other fans can't see them or don't want to see them. I certainly wasn't for extending Rex. I thought he should have been fired in 2012. If what I'm reading about this contract is true, it sounds like Woody and Idzik took steps to protect the team and its future if Rex doesn't get the team into the playoffs next season. If he can and the team can win some playoff games, then he'll have earned his stay, and maybe this screwy situation with Rex leading the D and being the motivator, and MM leading the offense and being more the disciplinarian on that side of the ball will somehow work. At least its not a contract where the next 3 years are guaranteed. Rex has to earn his money and extra years. Hopefully, Woody is realistic enough and man enough to get over his man crush on Rex and fire him if he doesn't produce the goods.
He made the right call, fans always want to go for 2 too soon. It was the beginning of the 4th qtr. If we did go for 2 and made it and the game wasted at 28 late, I bet we would have been conservative and went to OT where we could have lost. OR if we missed and Atl goes for 2 up 27-26 after their last TD then it's 29-26 and a FG gets us to OT. the game is not about a card telling you when to go for 2. You should never go for 2 unless you absolutely have to. he made the right call and we won b/c of it.
Yeah I forgot to bring it up yesterday but I heard the contract was based around success. If Rex wins playoff games he gets a ton of money. Im not sure what the base amount is but it sounds like the base amount is low which would give the Jets options to fire him after the season if things went sour. On the flipside if Rex succeeds he will make a ton of money. Its a pretty good contract for both sides. Rex doesnt get the bulk if he fails which im sure works for both sides.
Thank you for posting this. There is just too much inappropriate second guessing based upon 2 point decisions and saving seconds in the final two minutes, along with complaints about how"undisciplined" the Jets are whenever they get a penalty.
a year or two, or three, and on and on. Hes had 5 years here so far and the offense is a disgrace. Get your head out of Ryans ass.
No, they won a few games due to shear luck (even a Ryan worshipper like you should admit that), and most of the others due to defense. The talent on the defense has always been good and it sure as hell better be when all the top picks go to the defense. Keep spewing your useless dribble though....
Junc, you have GOT to be kidding...You posted above that Rex leading the 2012 jets to a 6-10 season "was a tremendous job." LOL! I was obviously wrong yesterday when I posted that you and so many appreciate Rex's MEDIOCRE records (8-8, 6-10, 8-8). What I should have posted was how excited YOU get when Rex and the jets outright SUCK-- In my opinion, Junc, ANY coach who takes his team to a 6-10 record has NOT done, in your words, "a tremendous job." You and Woody are easily impressed.
he has done an amazing job the last 2 years, I am sorry you don't understand this game well enough to see it. You have to understand what he had to work with and all the circumstances. If we keep going 6-10 to 8-8 it won't work but that won't be happening w/ more cap room and picks coming up and the young talent that is already developing. He doesn't have a Tom Brady where you can put anyone around him and he will succeed, guys like that are extremely rare. we have had absolute crap for the QB to throw to(healthy) the last 2 years, he had a QB that wasn't ready to play in the NFL this year and he squeezed out an amazing 8 wins and had us in the race most of the year. Just incredible, the best thing to EVER happen to this franchise.
Despite all of that, what about his first two years as HC? ThAt shit doesn't count now? When you have nothing to work with but you still find productivity at the end of it all, you've done something right. Rex has consistently done that, he has shown what he can do with a roster worth a fuck. It's a fact, that shit happened. Just because all of you haters want to ignore those facts, that doesn't make your argument right.
LOL! I wrote that Rex's 6-10 record in 2012 is no record to be proud of...and you write that I apparently "just don't understand the game well enough to see it." ??? You're so right, junc, a 6-10 season is a record EVERY coach should emulate. I'm glad that we have people like you who DO "understand the game well enough to see it." You've totally convinced me that the jets should have resigned Rex to a 10-year fully guaranteed extension. I just didn't realize until you wrote back that Rex squeezing 6 wins (against 10 losses) out of that roster (that he helped put together) in that 2012 season was such a landmark accomplishment! Thanks for sharing with us your knowledge "of the game well enough to see it!" Feel free to respond, you can have the last word. After all, better than anyone, you DO understand the game well enough to see it."
Most coaches stem from having expertise on one side of the ball. I don't get why people are so down on Rex not being the best offensive mind. Rex gets blamed for a crappy offense, does Sean Payton ever get criticized for having a crappy defense?
