Reasons to not bring Rodgers back: -He is a distraction, no two ways about it. Every opinion he has becomes a major story. And, the press love to drag him down. Circus. -He is unflexable when it comes to accepting other people ideas. He only wants his way, his people, his ideas, and leverages his influence when he doesn't get his way. Undermines leadership. -He is 41, and will turn 42 by end of season. He was already showing signs of slowing down, and his age will start to give him the yips to avoid contact. Without exceptional pass protection he will become a disaster, if he even stays healthy. -He is expensive, and keeping him on the books will increase his cost. The only reason to keep rolling with him is if we are still "all in". Are we SB contenders next year? -Devante Adams is on the books for over 38 million a season for the next two years. Releasing him saves us 30 million. He is not coming back unless he takes a massive pay cut. Either Rodgers' bond is enough to take a pay cut and stay, or he looks for greener pastures. I don't think he had a great experience here. Releasing Adams basically pays the tab for releasing Rodgers. Our books are already shabby. Releasing these two gets us back to normal'ish.
-The media will make the Jets a story regardless of Rodgers, this has been the same forever -Thats not true, did you watch the season early on? Remember in the 49ers and Titans game the Jets kept forcing the run. Im sure that wasn't Rodgers idea but he stuck with it in those games even though it was obvious it was not working -The more expensive option is giving Glenn free seasons like we did Saleh and then 3-4 years down the road we find out Glenn cant coach when we have an opportunity to find out immediately if can -Same as previous, Davante costs money but costlier option is this franchise losing 3-4 years when we can find out next year
I'm still of the opinion that the Jets went down the drain this year due to an incredible amount of bad luck, missed kicks, dropped passes and complete shit coaching leadership/game management. Thats what my (maybe) lying eyes were telling me as I watched every game this season. I'm not sure in the history of the NFL how many times we've seen a staff mess up time outs and struggle to get plays into the QB in a timely manner. That stuff just killed them all season long and Rodgers still put up a 4000/28/11 season. If that was some younger QB dealing with that shit ugly wouldn't even have begun to describe what it would have looked like. As a fan I'd much rather watch Rodgers and Davante get another crack at it and have what I feel like would be a decent chance of success rather than a 3 win "embrace the suck" type year with Jamies Winston throwing 55 yard interceptions.
You can make the same argument about Adams as you can about Rodgers. "Well, Glenn only did well because we had Adams". Its not a great argument. Also, we once again have a rookie HC. Its not fair to say we should know his entire potential from one season. We had Pete Carroll for one season. Coaches learn and adjust and hopefully improve as they gain experience. It not like we are wasting time on Aaron Glenn because in reality he is all we got. Its not like a good replacement is waiting in the wings. Nobody wants to work for the Johnsons. We have to take into account the business side of it. Currently we have 20 million in cap space. Not a lot, and not a lot of places to make more room. JD burned up most of our resources in order to win now. If we release both Rodgers and Adams our cap goes to 25 million this year, and more importantly, saves us 44 million next offseason. Next offseason we have to make a decision to resign Garrett, Breece, Sauce, and JJ. We cant afford to carry a 44 million dead cap for 2 aging players.
Fact: The Jets offense was tied for 24th place in the league in scoring - that's what wins games, even if you choose to cherry pick things that you think make your boy look better. No. Rodgers is a player, he is not a coach; there is no reason to believe he would be coaching any quarterback other than some very casual pointers. Remember how many posters here were sure Rodgers was going to make Zach Wilson into something he wasn't equipped for? He was lousy and he made the offense lousy. I have no idea why you are telling me anything at all about Darnold, Cousins or any other QB - they are the reddest of herrings seemingly mentioned only by you. If anyone actually promoted any of them deal with that poster - who ever the Jets put on the field next year other than Rodgers is fine with me - it is as close to a throw away year as we've ever seen. Have whatever opinion you want about your "rage baiting nonsense" and whoever "they" are who have you so worked up. Where are these "unsubstantiated rumors" and where is the money behind it? Real answers please, not just vague empty claims. It would be extremely difficult to find anyone here who claimed to "hate" Rodgers but dozens of posts like yours that claim it exists. Hating to see the guy messing up this team is entirely different.
Going with your plan, what is Rodgers going to be like in two years? What about the three or four you're talking about? Where would that leave the Jets?
Rodgers will be retired probably in 2 years. It would leave the Jets knowing if they have a competent head coach after the 2025 season they can build around rather than wait until 2028 to find out whether or not they have a coach.
Im not saying it should all be on one year but im pretty sure a decent head coach could at least win 8-12 games with this roster. The business side is true but IMO the bigger risk is not finding out if Glenn can coach rather than run the Saleh/Bowels playbook. Even if we get rid of Rodgers now the Jets are likely not competing in 2025 because they don't have a QB and likely in 2026 would have a Rookie which also would keep expectations low. The real years would be 2027 and 2028 so either way that money issue by then would be gone.
If Rodgers is going to be gone in two years (which I see as a maximum) what's the purpose in keeping him here now?
To see how good of a coach Glenn is. I think with proper coaching and starting Rodgers the Jets can having a winning team next year. Great opportunity for Glenn off the start to show he is capable of being a good head coach. Which if he does would give me further confidence into the future after Rodgers. If the Jets hired Carrol or McCarthy I wouldn't be concerned as much but we dont know if Glenn is Saleh 2.0 or actually good so Id rather find out in 2025/2026 rather than use those years as freebie years and then find out in 2027/2028. I hope Glenn succeeds and I think starting and winning with Rodgers would go a long ways for this fanbase after experiencing Bowles, Gase, and Saleh.
They ran the ball with runningbacks 7 less times in the Titans game than they threw it. 4 less times when Rodgers was in versus the 49ers. So Idunno about that.
Glenn will be tested by any team he and Mougey put on the field - why test them by forcing them to use players they might not want? You're not seriously suggesting he should get a one year pass/fail examination with the deck stacked against him are you? Would you also like to require a specific set of coaches - just as a test, of course? What makes you think the fanbase has any interest in continuing the Rodgers experiment for any reason, much less some arbitrary test?
They spent most of the half trying to establish the run until realized it didn't work and then went to the pass
I don't know why you think Glenn (with Mougey) has such a short term ultimatum. Please tell us what Rodgers has done for the Jets since he was signed two years ago that would indicate he can do better next year - he's not getting any younger or more athletic.
His QB play was the best QB play outside of 2015 in the last 15 years. With proper coaching, defense, and a FG kicker that can make kicks with the game on the line the team can win 10+ games if Rodgers can play the way he did last season. There should be a short term ultimatum. Why would we want to do Saleh or Bowles all over again? Glenn needs to produce wins end of story. This team was in nearly all of its games despite the worst coaching in the history of the NFL because it has talent. No reason why Glenn cant utilize the talent to get wins.
What the hell is "QB Play"? What it's not - Scoring, Completion %, Yards, TDs, QBR, Sacks, Passing Success %, etc, etc, etc. We're talking about Aaron Rodgers here, not a kicker, not a coach, not a defense - one guy, one position measured against other quarterbacks. He was subpar in every measurable.
People are just saying this and in awww because we only have atrocious quarterbacks to compare him to, one day hopefully we will get a franchise Qb and we will see what a real quarterback is. Keeping Rodgers next year is a step in the wrong direction in getting a franchise Qb. It's 1 more year of prolonged drama and bringing in Rodgers butt buddy's, and further destroying our salary cap situation down the road. We need to cut ties with him and alot of Joe Douglas experiments in 2025 and have a clean slate in 2026. I much rather find a way to keep Davente Adams than Aaron Rodgers.
I guess I didn't account for the defense completely falling off, the coach getting fired by the owner, and the kicker missing so many important fgs.
