I dont get it how is this ridiculous how little do we realistically give up and still get fair trade value for Cutler. This guy is 25 and hasnt even reached his full potential yet.The Broncos are gonna want to get equal value for Cutler and to me thats what he is worth, alot, he is a pro bowl caliber player who can make every single throw in the book.Yeah lets try to develop Clemens and Ratliff and hope and pray that one of them could amount to a potential QB, because they have shown us so much in the past that we can depend to rely on them to win us a championship. This team is ready to win NOW, with so many players in their prime, Leon, Cotch, Mangold, D'Brick, Jenkins,Scott, Harris, Pace, Revis, Rhodes. How long do we have to wait till we have all the pieces put together to actually win, we havent won in 40 YEARS These players are only getting older and the window in the league is so damn short to just wait to keep on developing. Why wait pull the trigger now and dont look back.
You're very quick to get defensive, very slow to make a point that holds any value. Why don't we just ship a 3rd to the Browns for Anderson, send him (possibly shitty QB with a huge contract) to the Broncos with #17(a mid-first round pick) and Thomas (an oldish, crappyish linebacker). Exactly what part of what I said wasn't directly related to your post? The Broncos aren't giving up Cutler for that weak package.
A team has a decent player trying to get out of his franchise. Do you need to give the team a fair value to get him? If you trade like that, you will never be in the black. In short, it's Denver's problem if Cutler stays and decides to tank the season - not anybody else's. So the risk is on Denver - so why should ANYONE pull the trigger this prematurely? Look. It's not even like I want Cutler in Green and White; I am just saying, if Jets do want him, now is NOT the right time to inquire about him. Ok?
Rex just said: he liked the flexibility he could have with Bart Scott and David Harris in the middle. Now, Rex ships Harris for Cutler, that entire flexibility thing (along with whatever defensive plan he initially had) are thrown out of the window. Just not happening.
if the broncos and cutler are really having huge issues then it doesnt matter if he's tom brady or peyton manning, things arent going to go well. I cant say the broncos will want to hold on to cutler for dear life if he doesnt give a shit anymore and doesnt want to play for the team, his play will decrease drastically, he will play like shit if he doesnt care, so this trade doesnt seem to be very far fetched, if mangini is willing to help us out, i dont think the browns will give up quinn though in all honesty.
I don't even know how Revis got into this. All Boomer said was that he shouldn't and wouldn't be included in any deal and all of a sudden everybody assumes he is or should be. It would cost the Jets a 8 million dollar cap hit to trade him. Don't people ever stop to think about that before they talk?
Everyone, just stop it already. I play fantasy football too, and yeah, Jay Cutler's pretty awesome at that. But he's not a top caliber NFL QB! STOP THIS NONSENSE! See what we have in Clemens and Ratliff now that they have an actual team around them. Get a few more pieces in the top of the draft, and work with what we've got. Cutler has no loyalty to his team. He's just going to be a major distraction in NY. I don't give a shit what Boomer says, because he has no idea what he's talking about here. There's absolutely no way that whatever they're asking for is worth it. NO WAY. He's an above average QB and nothing more. The biggest issue seems to be his attitude. I remember there being questions about his attitude even coming out of school when he made some comment throwing his team under the bus. It's just not worth the headache, especially when we have no idea what we got right in front of us.
There is not one single Cutler trade that makes sense because it makes no sense that the Broncos would even entertain the thought of trading a 25 year old franchise QB. I still believe in the end McDaniels will kiss enough ass to smooth things over and Cutler will be the starting QB for the Denver Broncos.
The thing about this little menage a trois is it doesn't make sense for the Browns to let the Jets be involved. As I see it, Broncos would like to get Quinn because of the system experience, they'd like to ditch Cutler, and Tony Scheffler, Cutler's buddy, is also expendable. They need help on defense, big time. The Browns have a disgruntled NT whom McDaniels would probably love to have, a top five pick to snag Raji, Rogers' replacement (and a much better player) and a glaring need for a receiving tight end. Seems picture perfect. Where do the Jets fit in to that scenario?
Not only have they tried once already but if you listen to Bowlen it sounds like Cutler will be gone. He is really pissed. Cutler won't return the owner's calls. He will be traded unless a real miracle happens.
You're right....it doesn't make sense. But Cutler is forcing the Broncos' hand....they'll have no choice. This will end up being a bigger mess than the Packers/Favre divorce, IMO.
Yes there is such thing. Would you trade this year's first rounder, Revis, Jenkins, Mangold, Rhodes, and Scott to any team in the league for Manning, Brady, Cutler, etc? Why do people have such a hard on for QBs? The fact is that no QB in this league can go to any team and guarantee success. It starts with the system, the playcalling, and the teammates allowing the QB to do his job. Say we get Cutler for this "too good to be true" deal and our O-line blocks great all season, and Jones and Washington both gain 1000 yards. I don;t even have to mention Cutler in that statement because if all those things happen, he will perform at a level that makes it look like we got a steal. Now say we make this deal and the first rounder we gave up turns out to be a stud player, or our Defence plays all season like they did in the last half, or the offense ends up having to play catch-up in most games and out running game sucks. Again, without mentioning Cutler, I know that people will think we gave up far too much to get him. Of all positions in sports, Quarterback is one of the hardest in which to quantify success. The stats they put up are extremely misleading, yet people refuse to acknowledge it.
Stop making sense. You'll get banned if you keep up. You need to have hard-on for either that #1 WR prospect or Cutler or both to survive the stupidity flying around this forum.
Exactly, no its makes no sense whatsoever but Cutler is going to go somewhere this offseason, McDaniels fucked up big time.This isnt like Chad Johnson last year, he's is the QB, the captain the franchise and as the QB he does have some leverage because that is the glamour position in the league.
I do not think it is as much as a foregone conclusion he is traded as you guys are making it seem. This could and will be smoothed over IMO, I just can't believe McDaniels is that stupid, he will not last more then two years without Cutler. In the end I believe he will realize this and kiss enough ass to make Cutler happy enough to stay.
Your whole point is ridiculous because you don't trade that many players for one man in the NFL, it would explode the everloving shit out of the salary cap. You know damn well what I meant.
