A-Rod Would Have Cost The Yankees Half A Billion

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  1. AlioTheFool

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    Don't discount that he can win 20+ games over the course of a season as well. Give him a good lineup as backup, and he's worth every dime he gets paid.
     
  2. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    You could also look at the Yankees for overpaying for every other garbage FA on the market the last 5 years or so.
     
  3. AlioTheFool

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    Not fair.

    We had nothing to do with Zito's contract. :wink:
     
  4. Don

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    Or Soriano's, or Mesch's..or...or....or....and certainly not Arod's.
     
  5. Barry the Baptist

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    Maybe I should reword it from garbage to aging over the hill injury prone guys.

    How about Giambalco? Damon? Pavano? Wright? Brown? Any more? I think you will add Posada to this list as well. Is he good, sure but is he worth 60 mill over 4 years? Absolutely not.

    I don't think Soriano would be considered garbage and considering the year Mesche had he's not garbage either. Arod garbage FA.... Ha only to Yankee fans.
     
  6. AlioTheFool

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    Not this Yankee fan.

    You're right overall though. The Yankees made the FA market what it is today in the first place, and practically every year, we overspend to inflate it more. This is why the tough stance on ARod has been going on this long. (And I don't agree with it.) (And anyone who is foolish enough to believe the Yankees organization doesn't want ARod is blinded by their disdain for the guy.)

    As for Posada, I'd say $15M/year is about right. With the market being so shallow in terms of catching talent, his value is artificially inflated without the Yankees involvement. Don't fool yourself into thinking Minaya wouldn't hand Jorge a check for $60M tomorrow morning if Posada said he wanted to be a Met. And don't fool yourself into thinking you wouldn't be happy about it next August.

    Keep in mind too, the Yankees have plans for him to split time at DH/1B when he can't physically catch anymore. It's not like making the contract worth his time is a bad move.
     
  7. JoeJet

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    Definitely. The ONLY reason the Yankees will be forced to give Posada 4 years/60 million is because the Mets will do it tomorrow if the Yankees don't. Posada said yesterday during the Knick game halftime that he is going to sign with either the Yankees or Mets, but believed a deal with the Yankees was close.
     
  8. devilonthetownhallroof

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    He's been pretty average in the playoffs. 1-3, 3.97 ERA, and 35 hits allowed in 34 innings.
     
  9. Don

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    The Yankees will give him 3 years and he will be thrilled to get it. Same with Mo.
     
  10. Don

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    No doubt he wouldn't be the same pitcher in the AL east as he is in the central.
     
  11. JoeJet

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    Don. I disagree. The Mets hanging in the background will force the Yankees to give him 4 years. If we were next door neighbors, I would make a friendly $100 bet he will get 4 years, close to 60 million.
     
  12. Don

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    Only Giambi was given a bad contract of everybody you mention there. Wasn't Brown a trade? And Wright too? Damon was given an extra year but the dollars were the same. So name some that actually were given bad contracts by the Yankees. Maube Clemens this year was. Pavano would have gotten the same from Boston if he wanted to play there too.
     
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    You can spin statistics any way you want. In his LAST 20 INNINGS, of postseason play, he has struck out 20, and given up 3 EARNED RUNS.
     
  14. Don

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    You will find out tonight when it's announced. If I were willing to bet on sports I would say it will be 3 years 42 million. Maybe with a club option for a fourth.
     
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    No announcement yet. Does that mean the Yankees have balked at four years, and the Mets are going to pounce with an offer tomorrow morning, and force the Yankees hand?
     
  16. Don

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    They have until midnight. Years ago with Bernie Williams it was almost midnight when the Yankees matched Boston's offer, not that the circumstances were the same. However, I do think there is no chance the Yankees give him 4 years. They will wave good-bye first. At least not guarenteed. There could be some stiff performance options that would let a 4th year kick in.
     
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    NO WAY Posada signs for three years, when he can get another year from the Mets guaranteed 15 million.
     
  18. FITM

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    Exactly. He's going to use the Mets to get the 4th year from a Yankee contract.
     
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    Exactly right. And the Yankees really have no choice.
     
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    Let him take the Mets for 4 or 5 years?
     

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