I'm going to keep a scale for A-Rod clutchness. On a scale of 1-10, I will rate every A-Rod homer based on significance while trying to factor everything. I am a tough grader. I will put yesterday's home run at 7.5 on a 10 point scale. Being that it was opening day helps, and it blew the game open. At the same time, it was a 2 run game at the time, and with the Yankees bullpen and with the DevilRays as the opponent, it was highly unlikely we were losing that game. I think a 7.5 is a fair grade. (Plus, I need to leave a little buffer on the top to make room for the ultimate clutch moments, provided that he comes through.)
Sure, that would be interesting. But why don't we just do this. After each game, someone can post ARod's performance for that game. We can all take a look, and come to consensus on his performance that day. (Again, it would be subjective, but at least with multiple people, it's closer to fair.) Then you can add the result to your original post, and by the end of the season we can review it to see where he stands.
seems to me your more obsessed with Met fans than anything else :wink: hey it's the A-rod watch thread..aren't all entitled to "watch"?
But you aren't giving credit to him for the run he scored off the steal, and Giambi's hit? That actually made the game for us. That was pretty clutch IMO.
I'm not obsessed with Mets fans. If anyone noticed, I lurked in the Mets game thread during their opener. I didn't type a word. Just "listened." I didn't see too many other Yankee fans posting either. Yet yesterday, there were a bunch of Mets fans posting in the Yankees game thread. There were a bunch of Mets fans in the "Classy" thread. I argued SOLELY with Mets fans about ARod just a couple weeks ago, in a thread specifically about ARod. And this thread is yet another example of Mets fans just trying to be in every Yankee thread possible. Watching is one thing, trolling is quite another.
I'm just rating the home run in itself. I know I'm turning my back to a lot of game winning hits that aren't home runs, and that's fine. That could still be dicussed. A-Rod did have a nice game yesterday.
Yeah, that's all I'm saying. Let's not get caught up in just his homers. Otherwise his clutchness is sure to plummet, regardless of actual performance. I'll be satisfied as long as he isn't grounding into inning ending DPs at every opportunity. :wink:
Homers do tell a lot with Arod's clutchness. I remember one of the games I went to against the Angels last year. We were down 5-1 or something with 2 outs in the 9th and no one on, and Arod was batting. Of course, Arod hit a homer. Giambi hit one right after him to somehow seem to validate it, but still. I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out.
What is the metric to calculate "Clutchness"? Something like: HR + Hit * Inning * Situation / Jeter =
That's why I wanted to keep the definition of the score to be within 3 runs at the time of the at bat. What good is hitting a solo when you're down 5-1. Of course if he hits a 3 run HR then that SHOULD be included into the clutch. I think I will ammend the definition to include times when his at bat could bring the Yankees inside that 3 run margin. Again I think we can all conclude what a clutch at bat is and isn't.
There is no metric, it's like grace, you can't have a little clutch. You either have clutch or you don't. And you can't acquire clutch, clutch isn't something you can pick up at the market.
Can it be taught? Perhaps Jeter can be the Yoda of Clutch and teach the younglings how to learn the art of the Fist Pump.
I think a better determinant would be if his homer brings the Yankees to within one or less. If he gets them within 3, and they were down 6 to begin with, there's not enough pressure. (Unless of course it's the 8th or 9th, where this would actually matter.)
Yup, it's just me being obsessed with Mets fans, never that they can't find something else to do but come and talk about the Yankees.
The topic is about Arod and clutch. Try to keep up. I think that perhaps, Jeter is the Sith Lord of Clutch and there can only be 2. The other dark lord of clutch is under deep cover with the Red Sox. None other then the Big Papi. I can't believe I couldn't see it, it was right in front of us the whole time.
No way. Papi is SOOOO much more better in the clutch than even Jeter is!!! ....time for a new thread :lol:
As much as it pains me to admit it, of all the players you could possibly rely on in the bottom of the ninth, two outs, it's Ortiz, no question. Jeter would definitely be the second guy on my list though. (Though I might even place Manny in this spot, with Jeter 3rd, but that might damn me forever...) But of course those who have a guy like Beltran filling that duty would have to sit around and talk shit all day...
