this is a huge draft that could be the starting point for the entire franchise for years to come. This team has some solid young talent and to mix in 6 of the top college players around could make this team fun to watch for many years! I haven't been this excited for a draft since we have 4 first round picks
In a way I am leaning towards trading down. This years draft class is so deep and trading down could nab us alot of 1st round talent in the 2nd.I see alot of top notch guys like Carpenter/Lawson/Winston/Maroney/Kiwanuka/Lewis/Mangold
The more I think about it, the more I am coming to the conclusion that they should stay at 4 for one of the elite guys (I'd like M. Williams). Especially considering they have so many picks in the top 100 or so, they can afford to stay put, draft an elite guy, and still have a lot of picks to get good to great players. I was previously under the train of thought that they should stockpile picks, and while I still think it's a good idea to do that, since they already have so many picks in the first 4 rounds, why not stay put if an elite player who fits a need is there at 4? It's the best of both worlds. No one can complain that we traded down and got a "bunch of mediocre players" and no one can complain that we don't have a number of quality players. Because if they can't find quality players with, what, 7 picks in the first 4 rounds, then they should get new scouts. Basically, I think they should stay put (absolutely do not trade up) unless their guy is gone. Then stockpile away.
Trades in the top 5 aren't that common IMO...Not too many teams are going to be willing to throw a second rounder at us just to move up a few spots. I think alot of people on this board assume we can trade down...You have to have a partner to do so. It's possible, but I don't think it will happen as easily as alot of you may think.
I would stay at 4 as long Mario Williams or Leinart is available with the pick. If both are off the board I would consider trading down a few picks if a team has a hard on for Vince Young at that point. If Mario or Leinart makes it to 4 we have to jump on them.
yer i think thats true but i think we still need our number 4 for mabey super mario, d'brick or leinart(which i doubt but itd be cool)
Lets stay in the driver's seat Based on the pragmatic approach of Tangini so far I have to believe they will weigh all their options up until the last minute. The P/U of Ramsey, whether it works out or not, puts the Jets in the driver's seat on draft day. I would be shocked to see them trade up since that would that deal would be from a position of weakness, there's no way we get out of that without giving up more than we should. Trading down is a possibility, but not very far and that would probably would happen when we're on the clock based on who went 1,2,3. Based on the so-callled Draft experts there are 7 "potential" blue chip players in this draft ... 1)Leinhart 2)Ferguson 3)Williams 4)Young 5)Hawk 6)Cutler 7)Huff We must end up with one of these players. The talent below these guys, although deep is somewhat of a crapshoot. Best case scenario: Brett Favre retires and both Young and Cutler are sitting at #4. A team at 6 or 7 is desperate to jump Green Bay and we swap ending up with Hawk, Huff or the other QB as well as another Day 1 pick.
If we can trade down but remain in top 10 and get another first day pick this year and next, you have to make that deal. You still can get that playmaker.
Green Bay drafted a QB #1 last year...Aaron Rogers...anticipating Favre's retirement this year or next. They are not in need of a rookie QB. The teams that might be interested in trading up for a QB are: Oakland at #7 - if they really really want Vince Young Arizona at #10 - iffy, but they don't have a young QB St Louis at #11 - Bulger is no spring chicken and they like Cutler Baltimore at #13 - this is a good possibility IMO Kansas City at #20 - don't laugh, but their QB's are all OLD! I don't see anyone else who might want to trade up in round 1. Baltimore is the most likely IMO with Oakland the Wild Card.
There have been allot of playmakers drafted after the "elite prospects" have been taken. How about dwight Freeny or abe or if it offense you are thinking about how about marvin harrison or TO. None of these players were considered the "elite prospects" of their drafts but have turned out as playmakers.
We already have a decent number of first day draft picks, so I don't really see a reason to trade down out of our great #4 position. I think the Jets are going to stay where they are and work with what they already have. With the #4 pick, we are guaranteed either leinart, super mario, hawk, or d'brick. There is an unbelievable amount of potential associated with all these guys. It seems like many people here take our situation for granted. Why trade down when we already have a decent amount of first day picks and we have the ability to draft a potential superstar?
I don't think it is so easy to just trade down. Who is trading up and who are they trading up for?? If Leinart is off the board at 4, I would love to trade down a couple spots,take Cutler and pick up another day one pick.Its just not that easy though.. I think we are more likely to be moving up for Leinart than down at this point.
I strongly disagree There are really good RBs and only Bush will be selected in the top 8 picks. We could drop down and still get a RB plus pickup a pick to draft a OL in the 2nd round. Two for the price of one.
4 - D'Brick (elite OT prospect is exactly what shaky-looking o-line needs) 29 - Mangold (him and D'Brick are the 2 best prospects at their positions and together solidfy the line for a while so in drafts to come we can get everyones "playmakers", even though games are won in the trenches) 35 - Manny Lawson (perfect fit at OLB) That sets us up very nicely and fills our biggest holes then after that we can try to pick a receiver (maybe Maurice Stoval) and see what sleepers Tangini can come up with in the late rounds (something Parcells and Belicheck do very well)
With the moves the Jets have made in free agency (Kimo and Dyson in particular). I'm not as big on trading down as I was before. I am still very open to dealing out of #4, especially if Mario Williams is off the board.
This theory doesn't do it for me. If I bring in a young guy - I want absolutely NOTHING handed to him. He competes and wins his spot. No handouts or gimmes. This is a proffessional football team. You make your bones if you want to play. I think this is the bigger reason why guys like Dyson and Kimo were brought in. When Law left - I wonder if Miller started to get complacent? Well if he's smart he's definitely training hard now. If Super Mario gets drafted there is no guarentee that he's starting from day 1. Get in, learn the system, practice hard and earn your way on to the field. If you want to walk easy steet - you'll be doing it on the sidelines come sundays.
