Trading a 1st and a 2nd is not going all in when you have the kind of talent on hand the 49ers do. They've built a window through great drafting and cap management over the last few years. What you don't do with that is keep on drafting and managing the cap. You go get your ring, which is an enormous longshot even for the best team (Patriots) in the league each year. What the 49ers have done is to earn the privilege to go get the best CB in the game to get the rest of that squad over the top. If they forfeit that privilege, well there are a lot of "best" teams that haven't won a Super Bowl over the years, odds are the 49ers will join them in that sad fate. This is the NFL man, every year is a one year window. If you don't believe that just look at the Marino Dolphins in the 80's and 90's. One Super Bowl appearance and done despite having one of the top ten players ever to play the game playing for them at the most important position. Kaepernick gets hurt at this point and nobody mentions the 49ers and the Super Bowl in the same breath for three or four years to come. He's a running QB. The 49ers have a one year window, like about a quarter of the league each season. It's just cranked open wider for them than for most. Making it wider still should be behind everything they do this year.
Nice analysis of the situation for the Niners, btw. They do not seem like a team that will be willing to shoot their load for one season's effort. They have a core of enough very good young players that they will likely contend for a couple of years at least past 13. I don't see them taking Revis as a one year rental for any huge compensation in picks.
That IS trading too much. The picks the 49ers have are as valuable to them as to anyone else. It doesn't matte rthat they have talent already. They want more. If they sit with thise picks they for example could take a Margus Hunt to eventually replace Justin Smith AND a Jonathan Cyprien to replace Goldson (or draft him and then sign an Ed Reed or a Charles Woodson to mentor for a year). They aren't drafting for one year. They simply don't opperate like that. If you want a model for how they opperate, look at the Pats. Can you actually imagine Belichick giving up a 1 and a 2 for Revis? I can't. Thats how the Niners opperate. They will CERTAINLY look into this. No question. They were involved with Nnamdi 2 years ago and were involved with Manning last year. They look into all situations that involve a really good player....but they are not gonna give up the farm for a 1 year guy. They just don't do that.
...and by the way....lol. Touched a nerve there... Kaepernick is NOT a running QB. Is a QB who can run. Big difference. ;-)
Thanx. Yeah, thats what I'm sayin'. They will certainly look into it. No question. I don't expect the Niners rumors to die out. I just don't see a deal happening for close to what people on this site want to get in return. BTW...the Niners have done this before. They were in trade talks with the Bills for Nate Clements a few years ago and didn't give up the compensation. They then got him as a FA the next year instead. Different situation and certainly different player, but they do have a pattern here.
Like Michael Vick, who has played one full season in his career. If Kaepernick runs the ball 100+ times a season he's always going to be at risk of having a single hit wipe the 49ers season. It's not a huge risk but QB's who run the ball a lot get dinged up fairly often.
...which to me sounds like a good reason not to put all your eggs in one basket. If he gets hurt NEXT year, you have burned those high picks for no reason. BTW...Kaep isn't Vick. He is MUCH, MUCH more apt to run out of bounds and until the playoffs did most of his damage from the pocket, not with his legs. The Packers game was an anomaly.
Kaepernick proved he could win by just throwing the football against the Falcons. Dude has a beastly arm.
The #1 overall pick ... and then you want more? How about trading him to the Chiefs for ten first round picks, does that sound fair? Or the Jets are still not getting back enough value?
Hypothetical go both ways. Check this out: Say Revis signs 6 years/ 96M with 50M guaranteed. Next season he injures his knee & is never the same team again. Forget being the best CB in the league, he's not even an all-pro CB. Jets are now stuck with him on the cap for years. It makes the Holmes & Sanchez contracts look like the "good old days".
The last "arm" I saw with that kinda power was Farve in his prime or perhaps Cutler in that thin Denver Air. Kap has a howitzer for an arm and seems to be able to control it as well.
The Jury is still out on Kap. He is one read QB (So they say) and relies on the big arm for late throws. He will get better and if he does watch out NFL.
Well...getting off topic... ...but peeps keep saying that but it isn't really true (the one read thing). He does throw to his first read quite often because he is more willing to throw the ball into tight spaces (something Alex wouldn't do) and because he get guys running wide open alot due to play action. I do agree though that the Jury is out. He looks GREAT at times last year, but he only has 10 starts. We'll see this year if he's the real deal. Looks pretty good so far tho.
My guess is opposing OC"s will have more game film to work with when preparing for him, and will find a way to make him pay for his runs. I can't think of a single Qb who ran the ball consistently over a period of time that did not end up getting injured.
I actually agree with you there. The running thing tho for him is WAY overblown. He did most of his damage from the pocket. The media makes it out like the entire 49er offense was the Pistol and the read-option. Not even close. They run essentially the same offense that Harbaugh/Roman ran at Stanford. They incorporated more of the read-option in the playoffs, but vs the Falcons and Ravens he scrambled a bit, but nothing like the Packers game. That Packers game scared the hell out of defenses...but Kaep running is a far smaller part of their offense than most realize. His THREAT to run on the other hand slows down the rush (teams try to "contain" him instead of rushing upfield as fast as they can), it forces the other team to "spy" him pulling another defender away, and exposes holes in the secondary. He does like to move so I'm not saying there is no risk, but its not nearly like RGIII and the like. He doesn't run as much as people think. Even his regular season running #'s are kinda scewed by 2 different 50 yard runs and the fact that he was brought in exclusively as a run option early in the season before taking over as the starter.
Steve? yes. John? He was mobile but always a QB first. Steve had to LEARN to stay in the pocket...but those early days of scrambling so much did cost him. He got a number of concussions and they eventually cost him his career.
Kaepernick is vastly overrated. And now that we have that established, we'll take him off your hands for Revis and our first. We'll even throw in Tebow, or, for added value, not throw in Tebow.
