See this idea come up often but I really don't think it's true. Revis would be coming in after training camp. Revis could play man to man but I'd expect some difficulty on Revis adjusting to anything else the defense wants to do. Such as when to come up for run support, or playing zone coverage, or any thing else besides shadowing the same person every play. Niners/Broncos/etc ... are not going to enter the season with a big gaping hole @ CB just hoping the Jets give them Revis. They're gonna draft a young CB or sign a FA CB. Now they've gotta measure Revis with zero training camp or practice time vs. continuation of what they've already established in training camp defensively. ====== Also, the regular season is only 16 games. Missing 1, 2, 3 regular seasons games during 1-year rental trade is huge negative in the trade for any Jets trade partner.
I think the odds on a Revis trade in-season are low. Teams won't have the cap flexibility they have now. They won't get the same value out of a rental if that's what it turns into. They won't be able to do any marketing around Revis before the season. It's just not likely to be enough of a plus point for anybody to make a deal, even if an injury happens to one of their defensive backs. If Revis is still on the Jets going into camp I think the odds on him playing out the season with them and then going free agent are very high, probably 80% or better.
so if we keep him we save 3 mil and get a comp 3rd round pick. trade him now and get a 1st and a 2nd or 3rd. Trade him because the abyss is still the starting qb, we are doing jack this year with him.
The best sisutation if Revis had to be traded and we went through with it would be trading him to KC for there num 1 overall pick and a second or third. But at the same time who are you excited about in this years draft??? sure theres some quality players but thre isnt any worth trading Revis to get this year
We need to trade him for one reason, the guy is going to leave us with nothing and walk as a FA after next season. He is loyal to the green, but it's " money green", not JETS green. The pressure on Idzik will be HUGH if Revis is traded for draft picks. Those players picked will always be compared to Revis.
Whatever Idzik decides to due with this Revis thing is gonna effect his legacy here. So if he trades him and the players we draft end up being busts he will be remembered for that forever and he wont escape it. If the players we draft end up being decent or good or even studs he still cant win because they will never be as good of players as Revis. Witch is why we shouldnt trade him unless we are trading him for a real franchise QB. Idziks decision will follow him during his tenure with the Jets. And just because Revis becomes a FA doesnt mean he is gonna walk away
I still think there's more value in getting picks for Revis, keeping Landry and bringing back Bell. Our secondary was great last season and having Cro and Revis is a luxury we don't need and just can't afford. We have too many holes on this team and stock piling draft picks would be the best way to build for the future. The $ Revis would command just isn't worth paying a CB, IMO.
I hear ya about getting the picks but it comes down to who are we drafting with those picks, Projects?? Immediate starters?? Busts?? theres a lot to look at with it. Say we tade Revis and Cromartie gets injured then what? Wilson and Trufant are now the starters. Everyone wants to trade Revis but no one seems to have a replacement in mind or who we would draft with the picks. Theres no plan just people with pitchforks screaming TRADE REVIS!!!
All John Idzik is concerned about is making the team better. He knows that if he trades Revis and the Jets are a playoff caliber team again in a season or two all will be well. He knows that if he keeps him and they're not then things will go south from there. I'll guarantee you that if he thought keeping Revis and paying him a monster contract would make the Jets better he'd be working on Woody's ear all the time about that. it's his job to make the franchise better again. That's all he is likely thinking about as he weighs the Revis decision among others.
I am a 49er fan, but not a psychic. ;-) I say there is no way because it would be completely out of their character. I'm well aware of what picks they have. I also know how much money they have already tied up on defense and how much its gonna cost to resign players like Michael Crabtree and Colin Kaepernick. That money makes an extension for Revis for the money he wants almost impossible. That means a trade for him would be a one year rental and there is no way they give up that much for a one year rental. Some team might, but I just don't see the 49ers doing that,
They may ALREADY be the best team in the NFL and there are other free agent corners out there who could help them. None of them will be Revis, but trading for Revis is more of a luxury than a necessity. As for Cap space, cutting Rogers would save them nothing THIS year. It would clear up cap space in the future, but they still have to resign Crabtree and Kaep next year as well as deciding on Goldson and Walker THIS year. They have ALOT of money tied up in that D. They will not give Revis what he wants on an extension. They just don't have it.
Absolutely true that they won't use all of those picks. They'll look into moving up with some of them, trading a number of them for better picks next year...and yes, they'll look at tading for vets. Revis is one. Harvin is another. They aren't just going to throw them away tho on a 1 year rent-a-player. If he were to lower his demand tho and sign an extension, this would be a different conversation. If he would do that thought I don't think he'd be on the block in the first place.
This is the argument for trading for Revis as a rental. They make their team better for the year and then still have the money to sign Kaep and maybe Crabtree next year. 49ers fans are blessed with a great roster deep in young talent right now. but the way the NFL works they have to turn that into a Super Bowl pretty fast because those great young players aren't all going to fit under the cap when their second contracts come due. I think the 49ers are crazy not to trade for Revis if they think he's healthy and good to go. Realistically they want two rings out of the current window and they need to go get the first ring next year to make that happen. You know this is true at some level. You're just invested in "it's not the 49er way". Well, the 49ers haven't been this loaded in more than a decade. Who knows what they'll do if a piece like Revis comes free for them?
The problem with that is that they can go and sign a FA corner and still be the best team in football. They dion't NEED Revis to be the best team in the NFL. If they did NOTHING they might still be the best. The 49ers are looking to extend their "window". They want to be good for MANY years in order to have MULTIPLE chances at Lombardi trophies. They aren't looking to win ONCE. Trading a 1st round pick for a one-year player is bad business, plain and simple. Also...you cna't pull all your eggs in one basket. They would be the best team on paper, but if Kaep jacks up his knee in week one, they ain't goin' to the 'Bowl. Now you have wasted your one season of Revis and lost a 1st round pick. Bad business.
That's a good point, but I believe it goes without saying that Revis signing with them for the longterm would have to be a condition of the trade. Revis has potential to make the 9ers better for the next 5-6 years and could give him the payday he wants.
What did the '94 49ers do? Similar situation with a loaded roster. They'd lost deep in the playoffs two years running. They rented Deion and got their ring. Whether they like it or not the 49ers are inevitably going to be compared to that team. The situations are so similar it's almost freaky that Revis is available in the year they have to get over the top. The '94 squad was the last team to win a Super Bowl. They won 48 games over the next 4 years but didn't get another ring. Times wasting for them now. Best team in the NFL two years running and no ring to show for it. Third time they better be sure of they'll wind up like that late 90's team, unable to get over the top as their best players cap out on them.
I agree partially... It IS very difficult to keep a roster together. Salaies become exorbitant and you just can't pay everyone. They are kinda running into that right now with Goldson. There are a few ways to look at that tho. You can go nuts and go all in to win it NOW at all cost. That is kinda what you guys are advocating...but mainly because you want a high price for Revis. You can also accumulate LOTS of picks and look into cheap replacements for players who a few years from now will become free agents. The second is much more likely what the Niners are doing. If they trade one of those seconds for a 1st next year, a 3rd for a second, etc...then they just keep bringing in fresh young inexpensive talent and can afford to let the older players go when they demand too much money. The Niners are looking to be good for a LONG time. They aren't looking at this as a 1 year thing...and they shouldn't. They have a 25 year old QB and the best LB corps in the NFL locked up for several years. They may already have Frank Gores replacement on the roster (James or Hunter). This isn't a one-year window.
I don't think that's at all the condition of the trade. I think the 49ers will want Revis playing with no parachute all season long, establishing his value in free agency as he does so. They'll want him as hungry as it gets, knowing that if he slacks off due to fear of injury during a championship run it will kill his ability to get the great deal he has coming at the end of the year. The 49ers can't afford to sign Darrelle Revis to a long-term contract at the terms he wants. They have lots of homegrown talent to lock up. Revis will the cherry on the top of a Super Bowl Sundae for them. You eat that first but the rest of the dish is just as delicious.
Deion was a FA. He played on a SMALL contract. No picks were involved. Why did they not get another championship? Deion LEFT. So did Ricky Watters. BTW, who did they Niners DRAFT that year in round 1? Bryant Young. William Floyd. I'm not saying the Niners would have no interest in Revis. I'm saying they won't give up a 1 and a 3. Also....there are some big differences between '94 and now. That was a much older team, particularly at QB.
