I don't know what this even means but I'm glad AVT wasn't below average it it... but also Seth Walder is one of the absolute worst follows on Twitter. He's the kind of guy that makes people hate analytics. "Oh you didn't know that Elijah Moore had an IJSFGKJSFGK of 9284975.94??? LOL ok"
PBWR stands for Pass Block Win Rate. My understanding is that means AVT "won" 88% of his pass block reps, i.e. he sustained his pass block for at least 2.5 seconds on 88% of his pass blocking reps.
I wonder how that accounts for things like stunts and disguised pressure. I can recall at least a few plays where AVT was sitting there with his thumb up his ass because the man he lined up against went right and the LB behind that man also ran a stunt. Is that a win because no pressure came from the spot he was lined up against? Either way, it's good to see that at least the calculator has nice things to say about AVT because every person on that OL looked lost. At least AVT was playing in literally his first NFL game ever.
Oh I don’t know about that. A team would have to be awfully lucky finding diamonds in the rough then. Keep in mind the Jets are behind the 8 ball in regards to the OL. When the drafted Becton it had been14 years since they picked an OL in the first round. I think at least one more top pick should be spent on that OL - they have to protect Wilson. Look at yesterday ....
IMO the bold is the problem with this blocking scheme, when you aim for lighter, more athletic and mobile OL rather than big, mauling types of OL. IMO the OL who fit this scheme are not the types that will win one-on-one matchups very often, as their techniques are different, and imo they often aren't as big or strong as OL who play in a man-type blocking scheme, or at least the philosophy or techniques they employ prevent them from doing so. This blocking scheme requires more coordination, timing, chemistry and work together to block as a unit. That's where the focus lies, not on the OL winning their individual battles. It's not surprising that Becton and AVT got split yesterday. They've had little practice time together, and to be efficient and effective it takes practice time together. Each has to know the other's strengths and limitations and adjust accordingly. They can't look at it as individuals. It has to be a corporate identity. That's why our OL has sucked all through TC and probably will suck for another few weeks. It's just going to take time for them to gel, as it did last year when there were so many new OL, and it's compounded this year with a new blocking scheme. Indeed, both Saleh and LaFleur need to quickly realize that they are going to have to alter their offensive philosophy for the next month or so in order to protect Zach and give themselves a chance to win. I don't know what in the hell LaFleur was thinking yesterday with all the runs up the gut. I know that Carolina's D is fast, but their DL is also stout up the middle. With our WRs who can block well, we should have been able to generate yardage running to the outside as neither Coleman, nor Carter, nor Johnson are slow.
Think the OL would have looked better with Thuney and/or Conklin? Of course it would have. The fact that they wouldn't sign here is not JD's fault. Oh, I supposed he could have paid absolutely crazy money and they may have signed here, but then everyone from the media to Jets fans would have been killing him for overpaying an "older" FA, especially if they got hurt like Mosely did. Aside from those two, there were not really any great OL available. This year, aside from AVT, there were no great IOL prospects available. He can't sign someone or draft someone who isn't there, and he shouldn't panic and overpay for a mediocre OL in FA or reach for some mediocre OL in the draft. You should know by now that it's not as easy as JD snapping his fingers and the OL is fixed. It takes some luck for the right players to be available, time for players to learn new technques and blocking schemes, and it takes time for them to develop chemistry and gel, especially when they've had little or no time to practice together. We've had bad luck with injuries and last year with Covid and no OTAs or mini-camp or preseason. It's just going to take time and we have to be patient. McGovern had been a top C with Denver and had been great at picking up stunts. With the Jets, he has started slowly last year and so far, again this year and struggled with picking up stunts. He greatly improved as the season went on. We have to hope that he will again. We're not going to get topnotch OL play until we have the same 5 starters playing together for a year or two in the same blocking scheme. Continuing to add new players or changing the scheme is just going to delay our getting that topnotch blocking.
Yes a line that is cohesive is best - however do you agree that at least one more to pick is needed? Even if they really decide to move Becton inside they’ll need another tackle....
I agree that a couple of more picks are needed, although I don't think that pick or picks has to be 1st rounders. If the Jets decide that Becton needs to move to OG and they need a new LT, then yes, a 1st round pick should be used on the new LT. If they decide that both Fant and Moses need to be replaced as the starting RT, then probably at least a 2nd round pick needs to be used, if not a 1st. In terms of the RG spot, I'm not even certain a 2nd round pick is needed to be used. If they decide to replace McGovern, then a 2nd or 1st round pick could and probably should be used, but not necessarily. It just depends upon the acumen of our scouting dept. and JD to find OL that fit our scheme perfectly, and the ability of our OL coach to coach them up and develop them quickly.
I’d be curious know how many teams have 3+ round 1 and 2 picks on their OL’s. No time to look it up now, though. I honestly think that if that’s the only way they can manage to build a competent OL - not even good, just competent - then there’s a problem.
I know Dallas does.....but I look at Jets when they were a playoff contender. You had first round picks at LT and C and the rest of the line were FA signings - RG Moore was the training camp find if I remember correctly. Let’s look at the current OL. LT and LG were first round picks - jury still out of course. The center McGovern a FA signing. I’d rank him as middle of the pack. Not bad but can be improved. RG Van Roten a very average gated and can definitely be improved and RT which is Fant/Moses they are both OK but also approaching 30. I think JD will add another high pick next year simply because the OL has been neglected for so long. If Becton moves inside as per the rumor then he’ll draft another tackle. That’s just my opinion - good dependable OL are hard to find on the FA market a team is lucky if they can sign one and I mean actual starters not depth pieces. I think the Jets will have a solid core with Becton (whether he stays at T or is moved inside), AVT, and probably another tackle drafted high. It’s a work in progress ....
Oh stop, OC’s get fired all the time in the NFL, Saleh is not infallible. I’m simply going by Saleh’s statement to the media about what he wanted to do for Wilson as a young QB and what actually happened in the game. The Jets rushed the ball 17 times, I’m telling you right now that’s not the philosophy Jet fans were told about when they talked about the Kyle Shanahan offensive scheme. Speaking of Shanahan, the Niners rushed the ball 30 times in their football game against the Lions. That’s what Jet fans were sold on by Saleh, If Saleh is the HC we think he is you will see this team rush more in the upcoming weeks.
Pretty sure the Cowboys had one with Martin, Smith, Frederick. The Colts have had it with Nelson, Smith, and Kelly. It can result in a great OL, but there can be problems down the road when guys have to get paid.
Those were the 2 that I could think of right off the bat, and yea, it can certainly lead to great results. Unfortunately they might not have much of a choice depending on how the Becton situation plays out.
I’m totally with you on that. The Jets have only been good when the OL was very good. At least over the past 30ish years. It still needs to be the focus for Douglas at the moment.
