2021 Final Rookie QB finishes

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  1. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    Mike White saved him from unemployment!
     
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  2. PJ4Ever

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    Josh Allen was atrocious. I’d say almost as bad if anything
     
  3. Acad23

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    Hey I nabbed another $350 on a Stafford td run parlayed with an OBJ td...

    I think I'll call it quits while I'm ahead... :confused:
     
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  4. PJ4Ever

    PJ4Ever Well-Known Member

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    Yeah their rookie years are strikingly similar actually.

    Wilson

    55%, 2,334 yards, 9 TD, 11 INT, 6.1 y/a.

    Allen

    52%, 2,074 yards, 10 TD, 12 INT, 6.5 y/a.

    Big advantage was Allen had 630 and 8 TD on the ground, Wilson had 185 and 4 TD.
     
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  5. Jets79

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    Year 2 will be critical

    the surrounding cast was not great…no one can argue that….OL was a hot mess at first, receiving corps was filled with a lot of backups due to injuries, plenty of drops, etc. no doubt. So yes….lots of excuses….not saying they’re not legitimate, but they are what they are.

    that being said, his performance was not good. The stats are what they are…we had a rookie QB with a weak supporting cast who threw for about 55% completion and about 175 yards per game. Yes he cut down on picks after he came back, so there’s that, but still the completions and yards did not improve by any significant amount, and I think in fact the yards per attempt and yards per game decreased. Clearly he was being dialed down. That’s ok…that’s not a bad thing for a rookie QB.

    But next year we need to see a significant improvement in key areas…completion rate most of all…55% is nowhere near FQB territory…it’s out of the starting QB business territory. Also, yards per attempt and yards per game need to improve by a significant amount.

    he needs help. I think we still need OL help as well as WR and TE help. But he needs to do better.
     
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  6. BrooklynJetsFan

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    But that's EXACTLY what he is...look at his stats so far. He's a screen pass gadget player and a backup WR. lol.
     
  7. BrooklynJetsFan

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    Yes. Beasley is his max upside. That's my point. Those guys are anomalies. When Kupps, Thielen, Diggs types should be a our main focus. Jets have been in WR purgatory too long to understand what we need to sustain success. Berrios is an exciting guy to root for...but he's not a must sign kind of player.
     
  8. BrooklynJetsFan

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    FAIR FAIR. Haha!
     
  9. Br4d

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    I don't know that I would put a low ceiling on Berrios at this point. He's got some speed and decent hands. He's the kind of guy where if you gave him to a strong distributor in a spread he'd probably catch 65 balls a year.
     
  10. K'OB

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    It is no point though. You need all kinds in the squad, you can't have 5 Kupps lined up.

    The fact is you dogged him down as a stone hands when be had dropped two catches, turns out given more of a role he can be extremely useful, not one single person has ever labelled him a WR1 or 2 for that matter but he is not a Jag which all your previous posts about implied.

    I'd like to see him in the slot more myself and see what we have moving forward, he can return kicks and do the gadget stuff as well.

    He is seriously a no brainer signing.
     
  11. MoWilkBeast

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    Well at least that clears up why Zach improved so much in some areas. Some mothers will do anything to make sure their baby boy gets what they want.
     
  12. Jonathan_Vilma

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    “Damn maybe I was wrong and Berrios can help our receiving corp after all,” is also an acceptable answer.
     
  13. BroadwayAaron

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    It always boggles my mind when people pretend a team can't do two things at once. You can prioritize resigning Berrios, who undoubtedly makes the WR room better, while also looking for a WR1 with one of your two top 10 picks and $60 mil in free agency. Just like when people lose their shit because you suggest going CB at 10 but they want OL. It is unbelievably possible to improve in multiple areas in multiple ways.

    To bring it back on topic, bringing back Berrios is an absolute no-brainer unless we're being asked to match an outside offer that's above market value.
     
  14. K'OB

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    Something unlikely to be ever said anytime soon this side of Brooklyn :rolleyes:
     
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    i don’t understand this line of thinking…we have a very good player in Berrios who can help on STs big time and also at the slot….we are not exactly overloaded with good players…so bringing him back should be a priority.

    this line of thinking in hypotheticals like well he’s not a #1 type 6-4 225 LBs guy, so fuck it

    we need to keep the few good players we have…

    if he were playing with Brady he’d be the next Edelman…he showed he can be a reliable guy for Zach

    it’s the same attitude Mac had…we had a pro bowl K in Myers but he wanted to skimp and we’ve been in K purgatory ever since. We had a pro bowl KR in Andre Roberts who we also let go …guess what…he just had another KR TD for the Chargers this year and until we got Berrios, our KR teams were not good

    yes there is a blueprint, and I’m not suggesting keep Berrios at ANY price, but jeez, at some point, we have to keep good players so we can actually build, instead of creating yet more holes to fill
     
  16. KingRoach

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    You calling a #4 WR a “backup” tells me all I need to know.
     
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    To clarify, giving BBZW what he wanted hindered his growth (handholding on the sideline).

    Young parents want to be the “cool parents”; I hope they learn to be the wise parents. Still better than the Batshit crazy coked up parents.
     
  18. K'OB

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    I think it was more a jest on the fact you put MILF instead of MLF :rolleyes:
     
  19. KingRoach

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    As long as he keeps looking like a hot mom, I will keep calling him MiLF
     
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  20. BrooklynJetsFan

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    Zach can't hit the short yardage on a consistent basis to make him become an Edelman. So he's going to be a waste with this QB. And yes he could potentially be Edelman-esque with an all-time QB throwing to him. But that's a eureka kind of moment / lightning in a bottle situation you're forcing to manifest when you can get Moore-level an up caliber WRs all day in the draft. That are just burners over the top and in the middle.

    ZW needs Diggs type WRs and a good TE to excel. It's the same way Allen was/is able to disguise his inconsistencies with the big arm.
     

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