2021 Draft Strategy

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  1. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    The star WR’s will probably not make it out of their own teams. Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Allen Robinson, none of them will see free agency. I think there is a reasonable chance many of the rest do shake free, maybe no TY Hilton but the others could be out there. Sammy Watkins, Curtis Samuel, Juju Smith-Schuster, I bet all three of them would be out there.

    Because of the cap, many of veteran WR’s will be available for a song.
     
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  2. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for this well thought out post.

    My not so well thought out idea for now (which will likely change by the time draft comes is)

    1 (NYJ)
    1 (SEA)
    2 (NYJ)
    3 (NYJ)
    3 (SEA)
    4 (NYJ)
    5 (NYG)
    5 (NYJ)
    6 (NYJ)
    6 (NE)
    7 (NYJ)

    and i'm gonna assume we pick top 2 as well. the top 2 prospects are QB so I think we can trade down to the 5ish spot and get an extra 2nd rounder this year and probably a 2nd rounder next year. or we could trade down for an extra 1st next year and have 3 along with maybe a 4th this year. but i'll go with the 2 2nds leaving us with


    1 (NYJ) here if he's on the board i'd go with sewell. he's a better prospect then any OT this year. and even slated as a LT i'm good with moving him or becton to RT and moving on from fant. this will give us a good oline at eevry spot but RG which we cna get later or in free agency. Give sam some protection. If he isn't there then Roussoue or Basham off the edge. My thought is WRs are much easier to get in the 2nd round then edge rushers so no WR here. Likely the pick is one of the edge rushers
    1 (SEA) this is gonna be a late pick. probably in the 26-32 range. bateman, st. brown, or devonte smith here. all 3 are WRs. I gotta watch film on them to see which one I want most
    2 (NYJ) Tyson Campbell CB - should be there and we need a real CB opposite of bless
    2 (TBD top 5) We double dip on WRs - I like atwell here. a slot playmaker who's small and fast. that gives us mims and a rookie listed above on the outside and crowder and atwell in the slot
    3 (NYJ) Edge - Tyron with jenkins likely being gone I think we double dip edge as well.
    3 (SEA) Cb Molden - a good slot guy to replace pool. not sure if pool will be here much longer
    4 (NYJ)
    5 (NYG)
    5 (NYJ)
    6 (NYJ)
    6 (NE)
    7 (NYJ)

    for the rest of the picks I'd like to see an OG, S, RB, OT, KR/PR specialist. Wouldn't mind a kicker in the 6th or 7th either.

    this gives sam a whole new array of WRs. gives us 2 new starting OLBs to go with zuniga and luvu or basham. and some o-line to develop. plus 2 new CBs
     
  3. b.reyes16

    b.reyes16 Well-Known Member

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    Unless we're taking a true blue chip WR in round 1, I much prefer going after a sure thing in one of these guys. Really can't afford to bust reaching on a WR in the first round just for the sake of saying we took one in the first round.
     
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  4. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    Juju would be nice. I could see pitt letting him walk. they really want to keep dupree and are pressed against the cap. If ben retires though they will have money for juju. they have a good young WR core though. I still feel like dallas can give up gallup. they are pressed against the cap and have lamb and cooper already. gallup is a good WR2
     
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    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    I think we take WR with your 2nd 1st rounder. I think our top pick should be edge
     
  6. GasedAndConfused

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    I wouldn't. his cap hit is pretty cheap next year. williamson and onowasu are likely gone. that leaves us with CJ, cashman, and hewitt left. maybe with covid cap we can bring back williamson for 1 year cheap too
     
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    That’s a pretty weak group of fa WR and as you said many will be retained. Better than what we currently have? Sure but that doesn’t say much.
     
  8. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think it’s that weak, but that’s just my opinion.
     
  9. NCJetsfan

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    I want both a blue chip WR in round 1 and a veteran FA. A GM should never reach for a player at a position of need. Trade down, trade up, or sign a FA. But reaching is a loser's game.
     
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    Ja'Marr Chase is as close to a sure thing as there is.
     
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    I think it's pretty strong depending on who shakes free. also remember teams will have cap issues. the next 2 years in FA will really benefit the lower tier teams like us who have room. Free agents won't make as much either. plus we have a ton of picks. If we get a decent coach and JD drafts well the next 2 years we could have a really good team
     
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  12. GasedAndConfused

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    There is no right or wrong way to draft since it's a crapshoot. For instance if the bears "reached" for mahomes 3rd overall don't you think it would have worked out well for them?
     
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    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    Well reaching is not always used correctly as a term but I would say what it really means is opportunity cost. I think the Cowboys did not reach for a CB even though they needed one and took CeeDee Lamb, whereas the Falcons reached for a CB in AJ Terrell when CeeDee Lamb and K'Lavon Chaisson were still available. It just means taking a position of need when there are higher rated prospects still on the board. Often it comes back to bite you.
     
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    yeah that I get for sure. sometimes you just have to take the value that falls in your lap.
     
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    I agree. Yes, if the Bears had taken Mahomes, it definitely would have worked out well for them. He might not be as good or as developed as he is under Reid, but he still would have been a lot better than Trubisky. I don't think taking Mahomes even at #1 would have been a reach. IMO he was the best prospect in the draft.
     
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    Who knows what Mosley will play like next year after two years off? At a minimum, he will be very rusty, and will have lost more speed. His instincts could have dulled considerably as well. Besides, it wouldn't surprise me if he gets injured again, or decides to opt out another season.

    I never really wanted him anyway. Once we got him, I hoped that he could really help us, but he hasn't done jack and as a result has been one of the worst and most expensive FA signings the Jets have ever made. At this point, I'd rather move on with a younger, faster ILB. Even if Mosley is back, it will be his last year, and I don't think we'll be serious contenders next season. I think it will be 2022 at the earliest. I'd rather go ahead and get his replacement next offseason and him have the whole 2021 season to learn the ropes and the D, and adjust to the speed of the NFL.
     
  17. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    exactly. the draft is such a crapshoot if you see a player you really like and think he won't be there your next pick. might as well take him even if it's not the "ideal" pick.
     
  18. GasedAndConfused

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    that's true but still at his low cap there isn't a reason not to keep him. not to mention 2 of our 4 ILbers now will be free agents next year. if we trade mosley that leaves us with only cashman and hewitt.
     
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    Well, at this point it seems we have no choice but to draft Trevor.

    1. Trevor
    1. Justyn Ross, Jaylen Waddle, or Devonta Smith would be good late round options that we should take if they fall. Hopefully Seattle loses.
    2. As much as I want to take a RB, we can get by with a veteran or round 3 RB. I’d go best available OL here.
    3. CB round 3

    too many holes but have to give a QB a chance to develop.
     
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    Big fan of Patrick Jones the edge rusher from Pitt. 6 foot 5 265. If he’s around with the Seahawks pick, I would consider taking him.
     

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