2018 FAs: Even With a Ton of Cap Space, Can the Jets Really Do Much Fix the Roster?

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  1. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you on the bolded ones. Robinson or Landry paired with Anderson could be lethal.
     
  2. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    Hyde is a bruiser and having him beat up a DL would help Powell and McGuire. Forte was a lousy sign and he played about 10 games in what 2-3 year. They don't even utilize him in his best atribute pass receiving. So he's worthless.
     
  3. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    Can't disagree more. Going defense again!! How is that working out this year, last year, the 6 years of Rex minus the first 2 years? We have another defensive coach that can't get a defense to stop anyone. This might work if Bowels is out of the equasion. Also how do we score and stop defenses from wrecking havoc on the offensive line and QB.
     
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  4. Walt White

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    Since Jamal Adams is a bust and a terrible pick according to a few sharpies on here, what Safeties can we sign since Adams sucks?

    I hope they draft S Minkah Fitzpatrick with the first pick too being that Ty-D-Bowles will be back...obviously. If not a DT, Williams blows too.
     
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  5. It’s not what I want believe me.But what skill player is gonna come here w.o a Quarterback??

    Not only do they have cap space, they have to spend it at some point before cap floor sanctions take effect which they could be looking at in 2019.Same deal as 2015.

    We have had success signing OL free agents in the past & given the draft lacking depth at OT,that’d make a lot of sense.
    The defense still has holes & you can never have enough depth.Gotta use that $ somewhere.

    It’s the kind of thing where if this is the way FA goes I’ll be screaming right along w you about going Defense again LOL But if it fills holes,makes proper use of cap space & opens the door to the FO seemingly forced to draft offensive skill early & often i..I’m all for it.Id rather go D in FA than early in the draft.And with Bowles it’s one or the other
     
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  6. The Waterboy

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    From what I can tell

    Cleary plays for Detroit and is under contract for 2018
    Kouandjio plays for Denver and is under contract for 2018
    Britt is under contract through 2020
    Lewis has been on 4 teams in 4 seasons and is a free agent right now
    Hurst, Su'a-Filo and Robinson are not better than what Jets currently have, Everson Griffen called out Greg Robinson for being lazy and easy to beat last season
    Pugh is injured too much missed 2 games in 2014, 2 in 2015, 5 in 2016, and 3 so far this year, D.J. Fluker is on IR

    Hubbard, Waddle are left out of the bunch to look at
     
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  7. JetLifeLo

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    pretty much... we've been down this road before and the results are never pretty... excluding 2010
     
  8. James Hasty

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    Looking at the WR position let's see what we have now:

    Robbie Anderson 6'3" 190 lbs is our established deep threat
    Quincy Enuwa 6'2" 225 lbs is a solid possession receiver that can help move the chains
    Jermaine Kearse 6'1" 212 lbs is worth a roster spot but has only one 100+ yard game this year
    Charone Peake 6'2" 208 lbs has all of the physical tools to succeed after a brilliant college career
    ArDarius Stewart 5'11" 204 lbs comes cheap but is almost invisible
    Chad Hansen 6'2" 202 lbs rookie has yet to get much game time
    Jeremy Kerley 5'9" 188 lbs is an unrestricted free agent with less receiving yards than Matt Forte but if you want someone to make a fair catch on a punt no one does it better.

    Imagine if you will that we get a real QB and add a # 1 receiving stud like DeAndre Hopkins to the mix leaving Kearse as our # 4 WR unless one of the young guys outplays him.

    Even if we got Hopkins I would also take a flyer on Allen Robinson if the price tag is low enough. Between his toxic fantasy season in 2016 and the ACL injury I would imagine he could be a real bargain if he can get back to form.
     
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  9. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    You don't think Robbie and Enunwa can play on the outside? I think the Jets got a lot of young talent. Hansen I think he might come along soon, he should've had his first TD catch last week.
     
  10. James Hasty

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    I think Peake has more potential than Hansen with another year of experience.

    Robbie and Enuwa are what we build around. I would rather have them as our # 2 and # 3 options with more chances to get open than expect them to do it all while we try to move the chains without Forte a couple years from now.
     
  11. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Enunwa was well on his way to being a number 1 , with Peake,Stewart and Hanson rounding out the depth chart I think we are ok to not spend money there this year.
     
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    I like McGuire as our pass catching back going forward. He has some good hands. I think Q and Robbie are definitely a good duo that can compliment one another. Add in ASJ and hopefully Leggett and I think the Jets have enough pass catching options. The depth just needs to mature.
     
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  13. I think we need a “short area” WR who can play boundary or the slot who can run after the catch resulting in moving the chains,busting out some big plays & giving us an option against defenses that can take away the intermediate/deep portions of the field. Those guys can come in really handy in tight games as well as those days really windy days

    Maybe Stewart is that guy but hard to tell if that’ll be his role cause he can def get downfield as well. Marqise Lee would be a nice fit.Donte moncrief can do Alittle bit of everything too.Neither will break the bank
     
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    The absurd amount of cap space the Jets could have this offseason

    Article by Connor Hughes

    Money to spend
    The Jets took a rather unique approach this offseason: They cut, not spent, during free agency.

    General manager Mike Maccagnan rid the team of their high-priced veterans. Gone were the likes of Brandon Marshall, Darrelle Revis, Nick Mangold and others. But instead of then throwing the cap savings at other free agents, Maccagnan kept it aside.

    The result? A ton of cap space this year. Per OTC, the Jets are set to sit $79.991 million under the cap at the start of free agency. That's assuming a safe $12 million team cap increase.

    But that's not even the crazy part. With a few expected moves ... the Jets can increase that number even more.

    Here's what the Jets can do to give themselves even more spending money ... and just how much they can have when all is said and done.


    Release Matt Forte
    CAP SAVINGS: $3 million
    DEAD MONEY: $1 million

    Forte was one of the Jets' big-name free-agent signings back in 2016. They let Chris Ivory walk, then brought Forte aboard. He's been solid with New York, but there's not much tread left on the tires. Forte will turn 32 in December. It's hard to see him coming back to the Jets next season.



    Release Buster Skrine
    CAP SAVINGS: $6m
    DEAD MONEY: $2.5m

    Skrine was the first of the Jets' big-name free agents signed in 2015. He played OK his first year with the Jets ... but has struggled immensely ever since. Part of that likely has to do with the Jets playing him outside in their base defense. Skrine, who stands 5-9, is best suited in the slot.

    It's unlikely Skrine returns to the Jets with his $8.5 million cap hit. If he's willing to redo his deal, he could be back.



    The best free agents in 2018





    Release Mo Wilkerson
    CAP SAVINGS: $11 million
    DEAD MONEY: $9 million

    Wilkerson signed a five-year, $85 million contract extension just before the 2016 season. Those are some gaudy numbers, but, as is the case with all NFL contracts, it's far from 100 percent guaranteed.

    The Jets have an out in Wilkerson's contract after this year. If he's on the Jets' roster after the third day of the new league year, he'll have a $20 million cap hit.

    If the Jets cut Wilkerson before that guarantee kicks in, they would create $11 million in cap space, though they'd have to eat $9 million in dead money next season. Wilkerson's cap hit if he remains with the Jets in 2018 would be $20 million.

    Or the Jets could designate Wilkerson as a post-June 1 cut. In this case, they would have to carry his $20 million cap number until June 1 -- which wouldn't help them create cap space for free agency. But a post-June 1 designation would free up $17 million in 2018 cap space for the Jets, because the $9 million in dead money would be spread equally over 2018-20.



    Release Ben Ijalana
    CAP SAVINGS: $4.75m
    DEAD MONEY: $1.25m

    The Jets re-signed Ben Ijalana this offseason before they signed Kelvin Beachum. It was insurance in case they couldn't get another left tackle in free agency or the draft. With Beachum the starter, Ijalana's seldom used. He's played in just 10 of 12 games this year with no starts.

    The Jets will likely cut Ijalana after the year.




    Waive Devin Smith
    CAP SAVINGS: $1.235m
    DEAD MONEY: $632k

    Devin Smith just hasn't stayed healthy since the Jets drafted him in the second round in 2015. He missed most of his rookie season with a rib injury, then tore his ACL after returning. He spent most of his second season recovering from that ACL tear. He re-tore his ACL this summer, and has been on the injured reserve ever since.

    Smith is likely a victim of the numbers game. The Jets just don't need him after drafting ArDarius Stewart and Chad Hansen last year, and with the emergence of Robby Anderson.



    Cut Xavier Coleman, JoJo Natson, Bryson Keeton, Obum Gwacham
    CAP SAVINGS: $2.295m
    DEAD MONEY: $0

    The four are on the bottom of the Jets' roster, and can likely be replaced with better players later in free agency or the draft. They don't carry any cap penalty.

     
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  15. Peebag

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    Was this for comic effect?
     
  16. James Hasty

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    Sure, let's trade our future to take a QB at #1 overall and then don't give him any new weapons that McNown didn't have.
     
  17. grkmanga31

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    Think the pass catching aspect of the weapons is sufficient, the problem is the o-line. If jets do select a QB with the first pick, they should go o-line with both second round picks if the players are bpa.

    If not, corner or Edge rusher have to be considered IMO
     
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    I realize you are being sarcastic. But I will say that I watched the Bama-Auburn game and damn Fitzpatrick is one awesome football player. I hope he goes somewhere in the NFC so we dont have to face him much
     
  19. NCJetsfan

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    I hope that Stewart can fill that role. Also, maybe Powell or McGuire can do some of that.

    Doesn't Lee drop a lot of passes? I think I remember reading something along those lines a few weeks ago.
     
  20. All Gas No Shake

    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    talk of cutting powell or kearse is premature

    we wont be spending to the brim of our cap space and neither one of their contracts is guaranteed ... that decision should be made after training camp
     
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