Yes, the Jets will need to draft a RB, but they don't need to have to draft 2, or draft one and sign one. Powell, McGuire and a rookie will be good We have the cap space to sign both. Just because we re-sign both doesn't mean that Hansen and Stewart will waste on the bench again. Besides, at this point, they're still mostly potential. Having Enunwa, Kearse, Anderson,Stewart & Hansen gives them great depth and protects against injury. We also don't know how Enunwa will look post injury and surgery. Will he be the same player? It would enable them to go 4 or even 5 wide. If the Jets plan is to draft a rookie QB and let him play day one or start Petty until the rookie is ready, then fine, don't re-sign Kearse and go with Enunwa, Anderson, Stewart and Hansen and maybe a rookie at WR. If Hansen and Stewart play well in OTAs and TC, the Jets could always trade Kearse to a team who loses a WR in TC, preseason or early in the season. I don't think it's a given that Mo will or should be gone. He has been battling through injuries. If we have a new CS and they or Mac thinks he's been dogging it, fine, then cut him, but due to the spending threshhold and Mo's past play, I don't think they should be so quick to jettison him. I basically agree here, and wouldn't be upset if they cut him, but if they cut him, it's another hole to fill. If the Jets keep Pennel, will there be a big dropoff in play vs the run? Will there be a FA NT they can sign who will be better and offers more? IMO if they cut Pennel, then McLendon has to stay. Yes, I know he's been injured his entire career so far and has given them nothing, but I think if they were going to release him, they already would have. I think they give him one more chance to stay healthy and contribute in OTAs and TC, but if doesn't show signs of improvement or gets injured again, he's gone. Again, cap space is not a need, and there's the spending threshhold which you didn't respond to and seem to be totally ignoring. The Jets are already below it. It would be a mistake to go even lower below it or not try to close the gap. Ijalana can play either OT spot, and that's not that common. He's not that good, but because of his versatility, has some value. He's not making that much for an OT. I hope the Jets can draft their future LT. That would enable them to get rid of Ijalana. If the rookie could start at LT day one, that would be awesome and Beachum could move over to RT. If not, but he could play RT, then they could still get rid of Ijalana. There aren't many FA LTs next year, and those that are projected now to be FAs could be re-signed. They are: Nate Solder, 29 Pats Greg Robinson, 25 Lions (It's Corey, not Greg. Stupid Spotrac) backup RT on Lions Chris Clark, 32 Texans Donald Stephenson, 29 Broncos Chris Hairston, 28 Chargers Sam Young, 30 Dolphins William Beatty, 32 Eagles Bradley Sowell, 28 Bears Corey Robinson, if he's any good, will be re-signed by the Lions. The only other LT I'd want to sign is Solder, but that's as much to hurt the Pats as help the Jets. I really want them to draft an LT. I'm over the older FAs. There are several younger RTs who are projected to be FAs, but again, they could be re-signed by next year. The FA RTs are: Breno Giacomini, 32 Texans Garry Gilliam, 27 Niners Byron Bell, 28 Cowboys Allen Barbre, 33 Broncos James Hurst, 25 Ravens La Adrian Waddle, 26 Pats Eric Winston, 34 Bengals Earl Watford, 27 Cardinals Don Barclay, 28 Lions (They have him listed at G) Michael Schofield, 27 Chargers Cornelius Lucas, 26 Rams Cyrus Kouandjio, 24 Broncos Seantrel Henderson, 25 Bills Hurst could be a target. Presently, he's the starting LG for the Ravens & the backup RT. On the Bills' Depth Chart, Henderson is listed as the 3rd string LT, but Spotrac has him listed as a RT. If Cornelius Lucas is any good, then he might be a good target, but he's backing up the ancient Andrew Whitworth, so I'd be surprised if the Rams don't re-sign him. Schofield is the Chargers backup RT, RG and LG. He might be a good target. Again the prospects aren't great for improvement to the Jets' OT positions. A lot? Seriously? The Jets don't even have a lot of notable players, much less notable ones who will be cut. As I said, I see Forté, Kerley and Skrine as definites, and possibly Ijalana and McLendon, but even if all 5 are cut, that's not a lot imo. If they add Mo and Kearse to that list, then 7 would be a lot, but that would leave them with few players over 3 years experience. I'd be really surprised if they do that.
good write up but i disagree with a few don't cut wilk. i know he's expensive but he's also pretty banged up. i'd give him 1 more year to return to form before giving up. plus cutting him makes another hole. skrine - i could take or leave him. he's been up and down but were thin at CB already. I'd cut him if we can sign another better CB though kearse - no way. we are thin at WR and he's proven he is good. next year we get enunwa back so him, anderson and eneunwa is a pretty nice group. maybe stuart ot hansen can step up as well and maybe we can bring in 1 more guy smith - already has been cut IIRC powell - no way. forte will be gone and i'd let powell stay and split with maguire. saving 4mil isn't worth giving up powell right now and creating another hole we need to fill Mclendon - same as powell. not expensive and playing well catanzaro - won't be expensive and has played well this year. i wouldn't waste a pick on a kicker.
Ok, but you have to look at what comparable players are making across the league and what it would take in either cap or pick to replace. Add in familiarity with the team and the system also. I mean sure we could maybe replace kearse and his 5mil but does it weaken the roster? Do we have to use a draft pick we would have otherwise used in one of your premium positions? Do we have to commit to more years to the replacement player,losing roster flexibility in that position? It’s not just stats v dollars .
Main disagreement for here is Wilkerson because again his cap number is far too high for the production. If Jets want to bring him back, maybe restructure him? He hasn't done enough to warrant playing under the same cap figure he's at currently. Injuries or no injures, I find it interesting that he played a lot better when he didn't practice and just played the game on Sunday. Is he aging poorly? Is he physically not at a peak level to play consistently well? Jets training staff will have to look at that. Everything else, I think you can make a case for either or.
Of course, but this is where scouting and being a good GM comes into play. Can you find similar if not better production from lower priced players. I'm not going to comment on whether I think Macc can or cannot do that because that would snowball into another topic but Jets need to start modeling themselves on the basis of premium talent, versus role players. If you look at perennial playoff contenders, this is how most of them are structured. Premium talent that takes up a ton of cap, and role players that are low cost but do the job well enough to not be a weakness. That should ultimately be the idea. Hate to bring them up but the Patriots are a prime example of finding role players who fit what they want to do at a not so premium cost.
Those teams do that out of necessity more than anything. Patriots can have a top heavy roster because Brady can mask the deficiencies that come with it. It wasn’t like that for them in the beginning though.
But shouldn't we also try to get a FQB who's going to eventually make a ton? My point is there's going to be players that are premium, that you have to sign to hefty contracts. With the cap space its all about finding a good mix of players that are premium and other players who are either role players - steady and get the job done, or rookies who you can have for cheap for a few years and hope they progress. That's how depth is created across a roster. No NFL roster is perfect, I just want the jets to start focusing on premium players. Luckily, a lot of our roster is low cost which allows for a ton of flexibility.
You can draft them in later rounds and have them have a profound impact. Robby Anderson (undrafted free agent), Chrebet, Antonio Brown was a 6th round pick. Curtis Martin (3rd round pick), Terrell Davis (6th round pick), LeVeon Bell (2nd round pick) etc. My point is, if you're a good scout you can select RB's and WR's who can be great for your team later in the draft. The essence of being competitive year in and year out is finding players who can fit what you do and do it well and at an affordable price. Again, not saying Powell and Kearse are out of here but they're not pro bowlers or All pro's that can't be replaced either. And yes I recognize getting rid of all these players in one offseason is ambitious and probably won't happen, but just food for thought i suppose.
I understand that, but you are cutting the solid role players for no reason.Every team has their kearse and Powell types making 4-5 mil . Even if/when we find that qb we will be paying those types of players
But what if we can find players who can be just as solid for less? I know there will always be players like that on a roster, I'm just saying they aren't irreplaceable. Good drafting means you'll have a steady supply of those players.
I was just going to the Jets cap page. Going to the "Salary Cap Space" page I do see where carryover is included in the number. So with keeping Powell and Kearse they still have $109M, I am guessing Wilk stays also but that would still be $89M in cap space.
This is from overthecap.com if you go to the cap space on the top of the page, and press 2018, we have $79,991,976 in cap. That includes the 18 we're carrying over. When you factor in the cuts I mentioned it balloons past 90 million. There is also a calculator function where you can adjust the roster and cut players, or make up numbers for extension contracts.
In terms of FA Cs, the following are the best younger Cs projected to be FAs (but of course will change by the time the FA period begins): Corey Linsley, 26 GB - He's their starter. I'll be surprised if they don't re-sign him Ryan Jensen, 26 Ravens - He's their starter. I'll be surprised if they don't re-sign him Travis Swanson, 26 Lions - He's their starter. I'll be surprised if they don't re-sign him Russell Bodine, 25 Bungles - He's their starter. I'll be surprised if they don't re-sign him Luke Bowanko, 26 Ravens - backup for the Ravens Weston Richburg, 26 Giants - Is presently on IR Spencer Long, 27, Redskins - Is presently on IR Brian Schwenke, 26 Titans - He's the backup in Tennessee Demetrius Rhaney, 25 Redskins - 3rd string center It would be great if we could steal another team's starting center (as long as he's an upgrade over Johnson). Aside from Harrison, all other FA Cs are 28 and older, and I have zero interest in them unless it's just for a one or two-year deal. Evan Smith, 31 Bucs Daniel Kilgore, 29 Niners John Sullivan, 32 Rams Josh LeRibeus, 28 Saints Tony Bergstrom, 31 Redskins - Presently their backup. Interesting that Redskins have 4 centers, and 3 of them will be FAs. I think the odds are pretty good that we should be able to add a center via FA
Ah, so you mean that you don't have to use premium picks to get them, not that they aren't premium (important) positions
That means you wasted an opportunity to upgrade elsewhere, you’re not getting better than Powell for cheaper without hitting On a draft pick. Would you rather upgrade Powell or use that pick to maybe uograde cb,edge,ol , depth behind Powell. You have a finite amount of picks a finite amount of cap space and a finite amount of roster spots. You have to be more strategic about when and where you cut. We can concentrate on problem areas without causing issues on the parts of the roster we are actually ok in.i think you’re a year early with a couple of these cuts. Here’s some more food for thought, kearse expires next year. With the money we have to spend this year,we’re unlikely to be big shoppers next year. Let kearse playout his contract and sign elsewhere is likely to net us a comp pick.
A bit of both, if we really want to be technical about it, all positions on a football team are important. In today's NFL I think there's a hierarchy placed on certain positions due to the rules and how the game is played (all focused on offense). IMO premium positions that a lot of teams will invest a lot of money in (QB, EDGE, O-line, CB). There's some deviation to that with some amazing talents at each respective position (WR's like A. Brown are one of the many examples). What Powell and Kearse do for the Jets can be replaced by younger options and cheaper options (draft). But I don't know if that happens as it's a lot of turnover.
I understand and i don't think anyone would disagree that we didn't get no 40 mil worth of production the past 2 years. but we know what he is capable of and he's banged up this season. we have cap room and if we release him and he goes on to dominate elsewhere it would be a huge blunder. if we keep him 1 more year and he sucks it's not that big of a deal
Greg Robinson, RT, 24, Lions D.J. Fluker, OG, Justin Pugh, OG, 27, Giants Chris Hubbard, OG, 26, Steelers Xavier Su'a-Filo, OG, 26, Texans James Hurst, LT, 25, Ravens LaAdrian Waddle, RT, 26, Patriots Patrick Lewis, C, 26, Bills Justin Britt, C, 26, Seahawks Cyrus Kouandjio, RT, 24, Lions Emmett Cleary, RT, 27, Cowboys They can start with these guys
