As I said to 101, I think that's what one gets when one continually hires first-time HCs. They have to learn on the job, figure out how to do things, and generally are more conservative as a result. They're afraid to make a mistake or to take risks. I'm not sure a young offensive coordinator would be a whole lot better. It would be an improvement for sure in the regard that there would be a much greater emphasis placed on the offense and upgrading the talent, but he could be just as cautious and conservative as a rookie HC who was a DC.
Hack / Petty will become an afterthought after this year, especially when there's going to be a QB filled draft class. Just like Geno, except this time, we will never actually see Hack / Petty play a full season.
I have never been a fan of retreads, there's a reason they are available and it's because they couldn't win where they were. can't think of one retread that I would want unless Sean Payton shakes loose fro the saints. So, we should be looking at the coaching ranks of the raiders,packers,bucs,titans, teams that are building around their qbs, that understand that it's a qb first league and poaching these guys to set us in the right direction.
Seriously? Rex, Mangini, Coslet, Carroll, Groh, and all the other first time HCs. In their own ways, most were as bad as Bowles and had to learn on the job.
After seeing petty play a half season already, I'm quite alright if we never see him play a full season. Hackenberg will play this season, we haven't even had a preseason game yet, I'm not fretting
I understand your disdain for "retreads." But most of the HCs we have had in our history have been first-time HCs, and had to learn on the job and made a slew of mistakes, didn't know how to build a team, and were as bad as Bowles in their own ways. I think one has to look at each "retread" on a case-by-case basis. How old are they? Was their experience as a HC 10 or 15 years ago, and are they still in a time warp, or was their experience more recent? Why did they fail in their first HC gig? Was it because of their mistakes? Was he a "victim" of injuries to key players and have a GM that didn't work with or support him? Was his owner impossible to work with? Did they learn anything or still do things the same way? Pete Carroll is a retread. He said failing with the Jets and Patriots was the best thing that could have happened to him. He sat down, did a lot of soul searching and was brutally honest with himself. Do they have set systems they will insist on using, or will they be flexible and select a system that fits the personnel on the Jets? In general, I think first-time HCs are probably less flexible, particularly the younger ones. They've had success in one system, are confident in it, and possibly don't know other systems. That, imo, is one of the things that has really killed the Jets over the years. Not only have most, if not all of those first-time HCs had to learn on the job, but they changed the offensive or defensive systems the Jets used (if not both), and the roster had to be turned over to find players to fit the new system(s). If it has to be yet another first-time HC, then I agree with you regarding the teams where we should look for candidates. We've only had 3 experienced NFL HCs in our entire history (Weeb, Parcells and Kotite). Think about that. Is it any wonder then that we've had such a sorry history? Is it any coincidence that two of the three were our best HCs? I don't think so. Also, if we do hire yet another first-time HC we must use the offensive system that fits the QB we draft in 2018, or Hack or Petty if one of them proves to be our FQB this year.
He's not being prepped as if he's going to start early in the year. I don't want to see Hack going out there in week 7 or after some BYE when the Jets have given up on the season. WK 1 or bust.
I know, but at the same time I defended Bowles into hoping he would change. I did the same with Rex and I supported him for far too long.
Team will be motivated, can't say after 6 or 7 weeks of McCown if the team will respond to a QB change well as they may have given up on the season. Rather have him start from WK1, team in tact. Also gives the QB some confidence as well.
I'm still amazed that Bowles wasn't fired at the end of last season, and as this new season unfolds, with him giving every indication that he's going with McCown, it just makes not firing him even worse - they're just delaying the inevitable. I don't know Macc's role in that decision, but if he didn't have a say, it means he's in a weakened position; if he DID have a say and allowed Bowles to stay, I question his judgment. What needs to happen - and I'm certain will NOT - they need to hire a great football mind as Pres. of Football Ops to install and build a winning structure. Somebody like Holmgren or similar experience/pedigree. Throw enough money at them to get them to come here, it will be the best investment Woody could make. What WILL happen I'm sure, is that we will watch another lost season, tearing our hair out as Bowles continues to fumble his way to losing. I honestly don't know if I have the stomach for it.
