Well Giacomini was a bad IdZik signing and Brick isn't playing up to his $14mm cap hit in 2016. I'm sure with all the bodies at guard that we can find two average or above starters in the group but Brick and Giacomini really worry me.
I have looked at the full roster and ranked on a 4 Tier philosophy (3 Tier was too constrained). Tier 1 - A lock to make the roster and is a starter or could see substantial playing time Tier 2 - 90% certain to make the roster but is a back-up capable of making a contribution Tier 3 - On the bubble (50/50) but have a realistic chance to make the final 53 or practice squad Tier 4 - Camp bodies at this point and will have to really stand out to have any chance of making the roster let alone the practice squad. This should let us see where we really have needs and where there is a lack of competition. Please note that I make not like having to put a guy in a specific Tier (Giacomini) but am looking at the guaranteed cash and the likelihood another player listed supplants them. Assume that no GM will cut any of their picks from rounds 1-4 which is why I I have all posted as Tier 1 or Tier 2. Also assuming that none of the veteran try outs would be more than a Tier 4 even if they get to go to camp and replace an existing Tier 4 rated player - updated to take account of 2 signings, highlighted in the body. OFFENCE – 25 Places QB - 3 Tier 1 QB Geno Smith, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tier 2 QB Bryce Petty Tier 3 QB Tier 4 QB Matt Simms, Jake Heap Realise there will be a competition to start but everyone has to hope Geno steps up and takes charge as he has a higher ceiling than Fitzpatrick. Petty needs a redshirt year according to every pundit. Simms is on the outside in the competition for the third spot on the roster. Heap was added after the first post here and realistically is trying to make the PS as he had stints in three colleges and never became the full time starter. Matt Simms - cut after the original post having asked to be released RB - 4/5 Tier 1 RB Tier 2 RB Bilal Powell, Chris Ivory Tier 3 RB Daryl Richardson, Stevan Ridley, Zac Stacy, Tommy Bohanon, J.C. Copeland Tier 4 RB Jets are likely to keep just 4-5 on the roster. Rumours keep circulating that new regime not sold on Ivory. Stacy had a poor 2014 but has 44 receptions. Since the original post J.C. Copeland was signed, a UDFA with Dallas in 2014 he was regarded as one of the top blocking FBs in college in 2012 and '13. For his career he gained 92 yards on 36 carries (2.6 yards/carry) and scored seven touchdowns — six of them on 1-yard runs — and caught seven passes for 85 yards (12.1 yards/catch) - he should push Bohanon for the blockiong role although as others state later Kellen Davis could make both obsolete. WR - 6/7 Tier 1 WR Brandon Marshall, Eric Decker, Jeremy Kerley, Devin Smith Tier 2 WR Tier 3 WR Quincy Enunwa, Shaquelle Evans, Chris Owusu, DeVier Posey Tier 4 WR T.J. Graham, Saalim Hakim, Walter Powell The 4 Tier 1 WRs complement each other whilst the Tier 3s & 4s are all young and are unknown ahead of camp and need to step up. OL - 8/9 Tier 1 OL Nick Mangold, James Carpenter, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Breno Giacomini, Tier 2 OL Tier 3 OL Jarvis Harrison, Dalton Freeman, Brian Winters, Oday Aboushi, Dakota Dozier, Willie Colon, Ben Ijalana, Brent Qvale, James Brewer, Wesley Johnson, Sean Hooey Tier 4 OL This is an area that everyone wanted to upgrade, both guard spots and RT. They have brought in a lot of competition via free agency and the draft and we are likely to see at least one of Winters, Aboushi and Dozier cut. TE - 3/4 Tier 1 TE Jace Amaro, Jeff Cumberland Tier 2 TE Zack Sudfeld Tier 3 TE Kellen Davis, Wes Saxton Tier 4 TE Not a good draft for TEs and not too sure Saxton will be anything more than a camp flier but has speed as a move TE, could push for a spot. DEFENCE – 25 Places DL - 6/7 Tier 1 DL Muhammad Wilkerson, Sheldon Richardson, Damon Harrison, Leonard Williams Tier 2 DL Leger Douzable Tier 3 DL Kevin Vickerson, Ikemefuna Enemkpali, T.J. Barnes, Deon Simon, Tier 4 DL Stephen Bowen, Ronald Talley, Jordan Williams, Davon Walls A really well stacked position and unlike others I do not want to trade any of these guys unless we absolutely have to. This should ensure we are stout against the run and able to generate pressure without blitzing. LB - 7/ 8 Tier 1 LB David Harris, Demario Davis, Quinton Coples, Calvin Pace, Lorenzo Mauldin Tier 2 LB Erin Hendersen, Jamari Latimore, Trevor Reilly Tier 3 LB Jason Babin, Joe Mayes, Taiwan Jones Tier 4 LB Deion Barnes, Julian Howsare The Jets upgraded the depth here during free agency and the draft. Still think this is the weakest area of the Defence. Babin generates too little for the flags he draws to be anything other than Tier 3 for me here, Mays and Jones are both 2 down thumpers and that may favour Jones as he is may offer more upside on special teams. CB - 6/7 Tier 1 CB Darrelle Revis, Antonio Cromartie, Buster Skrine, Tier 2 CB Dee Milliner, Dexter McDougle Tier 3 CB Darrin Walls, Marcus Williams Tier 4 CB Curtis Brown, Keith Lewis, Dashaun Phillips, Greg Henderson This is another real area of strength, especially if Milliner and McDougle recover. There will be a decent CB put on the street after Jets make their final cuts with me favouring Williams over Walls for that spot. Greg Henderson - cut after the original post to make way for try out signing of QB & FB DB - 4/5 Tier 1 DB Calvin Pryor, Marcus Gilchrist Tier 2 DB Antonio Allen, Jaiquawn Jarrett, Tier 3 DB Rontez Miles, Durrell Eskridge Tier 4 DB Here again we are a little unsure of the starting line up and who will make the team. AA gives Bowles flexibility and Miles was really unlucky to get injured before the final game when he was to dress but really needs a good camp to stick on the final 53. A current total of 89 on the roster, breakdown as follows; Offence 4 QBs / 7 RBs / 11 WRs / 15 OL / 5 TEs (42) - Defence 13 DL / 13 LBs / 10 CBs / 6 S (42) - Special Teams 2 Ks / 2 Ps / 1 LS (5) Practice Squad Candidates – 10 slots QB - 0 None RB - 0 None WR - 1 Quincy Enunwa OL - 1 Brent Qvale, TE - 1 Wes Saxton DL - 2 Deon Simon, Davon Walls LB - 1 Julian Howsare CB - 0 S - 2 Rontez Miles, Durrell Eskridge TOTAL 8
I think Aboushi should at least be tier 2. He played well, and although he doesn't make as much as Giacomini I feel better about Aboushi than Giacomini. Also, Cumberland is a backup at best at this point and could easily be cut given no cap ramifications. Otherwise I like the list! It's amazing to see how this WR corps has transformed from The likes of Clyde Gates/David Nelson / Stephen Hill to potentially among the best in league if Smith becomes a complete threat.
First of all, that was a lot of work. Good job and thanks. I agree with most of your ratings, but there are a few I definitely with which I disagree. Let's start with RB. I don't see Bohannon as a Tier 2. I think he's a Tier 3. For one thing, he isn't that good, and for another we aren't even certain if Gailey's offense uses a FB. Even if it does, they could use Richardson or Kellen Davis if he makes the team, and I expect him too because he's the best-blocking TE, which the Jets need. In addition, Ridley and Stacy could easily be considered Tier 2 rather than Tier 3. Next is OL. I wasn't a fan of the pick taking Aboushi, but he played pretty well last season as a starter. He also could possibly play RT as well as OG, so I think he definitely sticks as a backup due to his flexibility if nothing else, so he belongs in Tier 2. Similarly, I think that Ijalana, Brewer, Qvale and probably Freeman all are Tier 2 if for no other reason than the Jets have no one else to back up the starters at those positions. Freeman is also a quality LS, so I'd be surprised if he doesn't make the team. With his talent, if the Jets can motivate Harrison, I think he's also a lock to make the team. The only question is will he mature and develop a solid work ethic. Dozier possibly has the ability to play both OG and RT as well. If the Jets keep on 8 or even 9 OL, they're gonna need several guys who can play more than one position. I think they possibly should keep 10 OL. They're going to have some tough decisions, no doubt. Do they keep the 53 best players regardless of position, or do they keep extra players at positions of weakness (OL) yet extreme importance? With Gailey liking to run multiple WR sets and Bowles liking to use a LOT of DBs, and with all the talent and depth on the DL it's going to make for some very tough cuts/decisions. I think they keep 3 QBs, 9 OL, and probably only 3 TEs and 3 RBs, but that may depend on what happens at WR. Gailey might like to keep 7, but the Jets may struggle to find even 6 worth keeping, and may only keep 5. If only 5, then they may keep an additional RB, but I'm thinking the extra players would be kept on D, either at DL or DB positions. Thus, barring a surprise among some of the young players, or the addition of another team's TC cut, I don't think it will break down 25-25. I think it may only be 23 to the offense and 27 to the defense.
RB - I really was unsure here as I noted there are constant rumours re Ivory not fitting in with the new philosophy - have no issue with your suggestion re Davis over Bohannon. Ridley is still not 100% so could struggle for reps when he comes back Main reason I put so many of the OL into Tier 3 is I really have no idea who will step up and who will not - if Freeman can be the long snapper then you cut Purdum. You talked about 7 up that you could move up to Tier 2 - any of them can make the team but equally any could be cut - the competition is that strong hence my Tier 3 listing for all. Vis-a-vis the 25-25 breakdown I have not made that a hard and fast call but put it in place to keep an eye on - many of the numbers within each side have variants and they will impact the breakdown EXACTLY as you indicated. Still when you look at the decisions that Bowles and MacCagnan will have to make it will be DIFFICULT.
T is my greatest concern position. But I wouldnt be surprised if the coaching staff considers Oday Aboushi as the main backup tackle as he played that position exclusively in college. He could very well be Breno's main competition at RT.
You're probably right, but Dozier played RT in college, too. I think that both were projected to OG int he NFL, however. It will be interesting to see waht happens.
I wouldn't want us to switch Aboushi back to tackle as a) I think he is better suited inside and b) learning from the Antonio Allen regression, probably not worth risk of him going backwards given he was easily our best guard last year. (Our offense literally had a different pace when winters was replaced) That said, I would give anything to see Giacomini get some competition. And maybe if our fifth round pick steps up and secures spot opposite Carpenter, someone puts heat on Breno.
While Aboushi played tackle his draft stock plummeted during the run up to the draft Per sources "Aboushi struggled in the Senior Bowl. He was especially beaten via power and physicality. While other tackles have helped themselves since end of the season, Aboushi's stock has fallen. He had a disappointing Combine performance with a slow 40 and a weak performance on the bench press (17 reps) as well." I had consistently seen multiple early mocks where Aboushi was going in the second round - the senior bowl performance and one and one work outs lead to a fall Per another source "Aboushi has struggled at tackle this week. Most clubs believe he will be better suited to slide inside and play offensive guard at the next level. He has had trouble dealing with athletic edge rushers because of his lack of foot quickness and agility. Aboushi has taken some reps at guard, but he doesn't have a comfort level at the position right now. He looked like a mid-round-type player this week." In short I would be just as worried to see him kick outside
I'll be pretty surprised if the Jets do carry a FB this season. When Gailey was in Buff he hardly ever utilized one even though they had a solid veteran FB Corey McIntyre. I can see them carrying 4 RBs and using an Hback before they use a standard FB
I agree. Am I'm fine with that. They don't need to keep a FB by any means, especially since they are already at least 4 deep at RB (Ridley, Ivory, Powell & Stacy). No need to sacrifice another roster spot elsewhere just to keep a FB. Unless one of these FBs makes themselves too valuable in special teams they should cut them. You think about guys like I.K. Ekempali, Rontez Miles, T.J. Barnes... their spots on the team hinge on how many guys they keep elsewhere. is keeping a FB in an offense that doesn't use FBs worth losing guys like that? I don't think so
We could have the worst offensive line in the division if you think about it. I hope someone at both G and T step up because it's going to be a long season if not.
Is Powell supposed to be our only scat back this year? Or are we just going to pound it straight through 5 yards at a time?
Well that's not happenning with this O-line...... unless they shoot some stem cells in Eddie George's knees and send him an invite I think O-line is just behind QB as a weak spot on this team... hopefully I'm wrong and at least one of the young guys steps up and proves me wrong. (we already know Winters won't be one of them) Breno? MEH Carpenter? meh Colon? meh (he at least has value to the team outside his playing performance)
You think Mac strays from BPA? Will certainly be interesting...Think Brick is like a 17mm cap charge next year.
