2013 Training Camp Day 8

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  1. JdotGriff

    JdotGriff Well-Known Member

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    Yeah im a troll joined in 2011 been banned once for losing my cool with people who thought Cromartie should be cut......


    You seem to be a bit dramatic and a little high on your self. Comparing Manigold and Sanchez having sex to someone being in rehab after being found
    Completely wasted in a truck park in the passing lane of a major highway with possible ownership of a "large amount of weed".

    Then calling me a troll? Like you insulting me in the beginning of this was some victory for myself.

    And maybe when that guy said "we all know this" he was just saying its common sense for this to be the solution.
     
  2. KWJetsFan

    KWJetsFan Well-Known Member

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    You are clearly a dullard.

    I said if I claimed Sanchez and Mangold had sex would come to light eventually, it would be the same thing.

    Basically, bullshit.

    Let's clear this up.

    Here is a direct quote from you:
    "All I am doing is providing a small amount of info for those who want to read it. When it does (and it will) come to light you can think back to my post and next time be a little more receptive instead of flicking the douche switch to engage mode."

    Can you or can you not provide a link stating this as fact? Yes or no? No need to expand. If it's yes, provide a link. If not.....go away.
     
  3. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    sjf why are you taking this whole thing so personally?
     
  4. KWJetsFan

    KWJetsFan Well-Known Member

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    Alley..........not personal at all to me. Just want him to post a link to back up his claims. (he can't and won't)
     
  5. JdotGriff

    JdotGriff Well-Known Member

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    Oh well if that's all you wanted to know. Then no i can not provide you an internet link to back up my thoughts on this posting. Like i said earlier things like this wont become a matter of public record for us until it is presented as 1.evidence or 2.Matter of record to be heard for and or on sentencing.

    Now see if you had just asked that instead of insulting me in the beginning i think this back and forth nonsense never would have happened.
     
  6. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    Thank GOD! I was so concerned with this.

    High ankle sprain is a bitch - make no mistake about that - but at least Freeman doesn't have to play much so it should be more than fine.
     
  7. JetsFanDoc

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    Totally willing to admit when I am wrong, I was one of the people calling for Cromartie's head. That was also when we had Revis though, so I wanted the CB money to go towards him...still not a RIDICULOUS sentiment, but Cro is better than I gave him credit for at that time.
     
  8. KWJetsFan

    KWJetsFan Well-Known Member

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    Jetsfanmack and I both asked you to back up your claims and you didn't/couldn't. You have nothing. You presented your opinion as fact, despite it being nothing more than opinion, which is what I said initially. You have gone around in circles despite me and Jetsfanmack asking you for proof or some semblance of credibility, but you had none.

    Why didn't you just admit it initially. Was it really because your feelings got hurt for being called out? Really?
     
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  9. joe

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    Took a slew of pix of today's practice with my iPhone and zoom lens camera. But I'm camera-to-computer unsavvy (clueless). I have to google to learn how to upload and post pix.

    In the meantime, some notes from a bystsnder today at Cortland, Friday 8/2:

    - Practice started with special teams (punts). Incumbent Robert Malone vs. Ryan Quigley (Boston College). Quigley, inconsistent drops (front tip too high) resulting in "nose up" punts that didn't turn over - poor hang time and distance. While Malone is not noted for a huge leg (more directional, control punter), he did hit two bombs and is clearly the better of the two. Barring a miracle, Quigley (nice kid btw) should be leaving Cortland soon.

    - WR drills follow (slants/crosses/outs). Ryan Spadola (#85, rookie Lehigh), solid build vs. Zack Rogers (#9, rookie TN) spindly. This looks like it may be an interesting battle for a final WR spot. Gates looking improved (had a drop later).

    Playing with the "1's" was not limited to any one QB today.

    Geno: looked pretty good, threw well. Nice release out of his hands, tight spirals, keeps the ball low (avoids "tip drill" type picks). Footwork has a little quirk to it: when he finishes backpedalling and bounces/plants on his back foot to throw, his back (right) foot strays and points slightly backwards instead of parallel to the LOS. In short his plant could be more solid...and not depend on his 'arm' as much, i.e. step in strong into the throw. Sanchez looked smoother and more balanced in this regard. Geno did have one bad fumble. Took ball from center, wheeled around to his left to hand off and ball came flying out of his hands onto the ground.

    Sanchez: looked pretty good today as well. Ball does not have quite the zip on it that Geno had (old news) but he did have some nice hookups with Hill - once on an out pattern and then on a bomb down the right sideline (Hill btw, is looking more sure-handed; kid is a physical speciman--rangy but with some beast muscle). Sanchez also had a nice TD throw to Kerley on a long post.

    McElroy: looked good today, WC suits him well. Not the strongest arm (we already know), but he puts enough zip on the ball and with good accuracy on the short and intermediate routes. Had a long TD down the middle to Rogers but it was mostly due to blown coverage. Threw another TD bomb (slightly underthrown-ball sat up) to Kerley who made a great leaping catch but TD was disallowed as Kerley was called for offensive pass interference.

    Simms: has a little Phillip Rivers (sidearm) in his throwing motion, esp. on routes outside the hashmarks. Had a roll out TD during his turn on the goal line drills.

    Speaking of goal line drills, defense won overall.


    Misc.:

    - Ellis Lankster (#21) impressive today. Guy is not very tall but is solidly built-was bringing the wood to the WRs on a number of plays today. Had a pick when Simms and receiver got their signals crossed (WR turned an out pattern upfield, Simms threw the sideline out and Lankster 'sitting there' picked it). Lankster also laid the wood big time to Seattle pickup Ben Obomanu (#15).

    - Ricky Sapp (#55) very active on the pass rush. Sanchez did a good job ducking away from Sapp who almost took his head off). The OL 2's btw, were lousy today, especially when it was their turn in the goal line drills later on. Their timing coming off the ball wasn't crisp and as a result they didn't get any push. Pass protection was shoddy as well, looked like the ghost of Wayne effin' Hunter was out there at times.

    - Geno throwing a swing pass during 7-on-7's to FB Hilliard: Hilliard runs a wheel pattern out to the right, Geno throws it, good coverage, ball incomplete. However, another interesting development occured on that play: a one-on-one Zack Rogers vs. Dee Milliner. Rogers runs a streak down the right sideline. Milliner turns with him, gives him a little shove and fwiw, Rogers ended up getting a step and a half on Milliner. And, it wasn't because Dee was turning back towards Hilliard underneath; nope, both he and Rogers were running full tilt downfield. If Geno fake pumped to Hilliard and let it go for Zack, it would've been interesting...Rogers had him beat.

    About Dee Milliner: while he looks great, he's probably still not in 'football shape' yet and has been told by the trainers to take it easy for now on his shoulder. He did not play any physical press coverage (did mostly soft backpedal technique) and his "tackles" mostly consisted of 'tapping' the ball carrier on the shoulder. Good height, lean calves with a build that looks somewhere between Revis (tight muscle) and Cromartie (rangy).

    - Speaking of Cromartie, that 'soft' guy that let Shonn Green run through him in that playoff game in SD in '09 looks like a different guy. Athletically he's a freak but who looks like he's developed a little bit of a 'streak' in him.

    - Sanchez had a nice square-out completion to Hill (who used his height/size beautifully to shield the ball away from the CB), as well as a bomb to Hill down the right sideline. Sanchez also had a TD (long post) to Kerley.

    2nd string OL not good today. Sanchez once almost got his head ripped off by Ricky Sapp on a blitz; Nacho made a nice play to duck him. Sapp btw, very quick and active on the blitz today; the backfield often.

    - Joe McKnight not much today. Bilal Powell not bad. John Griffith (#24) had a bad drop on a screen that McElroy had beautifull set up. FB Tommy Bohanan had a nice swing pass catch & run.

    TE's: Reuland did well today, Cumberland was fairly quiet-I don't really remember him. Kellen Winslow was playing catch with Braylon (both out of pads)...btw, both of them can 'zip' the ball. About Hayden Smith (the rugby guy): the guy is a beast build-wise, but I noticed an interesting thing about him: when he and Winslow were both playing catch on the sideline with McElroy, you could 'hear' the difference in the hands between Winslow and Smith. When Smith caught the ball you could hear it and when Winslow caught it you couldn't, i.e. Winslow has quieter/softer hands. Smiths still needs work on his mitts. Big dude though.

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    Post-practice:

    Folk, Quigley and Patrick Scales (#68) come out and sign for the entire sideline. Later, behind the endzone, Sanchez stays out and signs for a long time with a mob of fans. McElroy came out and signed as well.

    There was this one guy (a huge Sanchez supporter) who was yelling at Sanchez (and the team) the entire time during practice to the point that Mike Westhoff was turning around laughing and yelling back at the guy--the guy wouldn't stop: "you're the man Maaarrk!...this is YOUR team!....make their decision impossible!!!...etc., etc." People were rolling their eyes and looking at each other like "won't this guy shut up?!!" He was non-stop and even some of the players on the sideline were turning around like "wtf?"

    So anyway, after practice while Sanchez is signing, this guy with the leather lungs comes over and starts up again with Nacho: "Mark, you're the best!!!, etc." whereupon Sanchez good naturedly goes along with it and is repeatedly yelling back at the guy while signing for the mob surrounding him: "Dad, I told you not to come to Cortland!!!!....let me live my own life!!!" - the crowd was going nuts laughing at the two. Then some idiot nearby pulls out his iPhone (with a 50-in-1 piano app) and starts playing the Southern Cal fight song whereupon Sanchez stops, smiles and looks up and says: "Hey, we gotta SC fan here?"

    That idiot was me....and I hope these 'notes' didn't read as too scatterbrained.
     
  10. KWJetsFan

    KWJetsFan Well-Known Member

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    Great post. Thanks joe.
     
  11. JdotGriff

    JdotGriff Well-Known Member

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    Are you ok man? You seem really bothered by me. You continue to insult me i continue to take it and respond respectfully.

    I presented information for those who wanted to read it. Maybe i didn't choose proper wording to abide by forum rules for which i apologize. Either way you are over reacting and would really appreciate you stop perusing what appears to be some vendetta for another member which some how i have
    gotten swept into.

    If some how i magically guessed correctly on whats been going on with Mike would you be nice enough to at least send me an apology via pm?
     
  12. alleycat9

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    great post joe, really interesting information about smiths dropback. i hope someone can keep an eye on that in the coming weeks. not a huge thing but these are the types of things that make a huge difference at that level.
     
  13. KWJetsFan

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    You just quoted me and I didn't insult you once in that quote. Are you okay? Sensitive maybe?

    Again...you claim it is "information." I ask...is it "information, or "opinion"? I'll answer....it's opinion as of now. Stop claiming otherwise. As for "some other vendetta"...all I ask is stop presenting your opinions as fact. If you claim something as fact, be able to back it up. It's not personal. Don't look to his (or her) faults to make yours okay. Barcs, as you did, stated something as fact and he (as usual) is wrong.

    NOOOOO!!!! For the last time......now you are saying you may or may not have guessed correctly. Previously, you said it would come to light eventually. In the future, it is opinion or fact. Just be okay with the difference.
     
  14. alleycat9

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    ok now i see what is going on.

    yeah i am with you on this one sjf. definitely be more obvious whether you are telling us your opinion or something that is fact or passed on from a source.

    sorry for the misunderstanding on my part, i thought you were just going after the guy for no real reason.
     
  15. hwismer

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    Good stuff Joe.

    Thanks.
     
  16. JdotGriff

    JdotGriff Well-Known Member

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    My original post included info about his court case currently that is fact and matter of public records and google. There fore my original post did include information.

    Its not that simple though. Since if im correct for it to be fact here on this internet board it must be accompanied by a link. The problem is in real life just because you don't have a internet link doesn't mean what you said was in fact not fact.
     
  17. Barcs

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    Don't listen to SufferingJetsFan. When arguments don't go his way he'll insult you. It's like a natural reflex for him. He's been suffering for many many decades. The Jets have made him lose his mind over the years. It happens to the best of us.

    The writing is on the wall for him being in rehab. After what happened he is trying to get the rehab done right away to show he's taking the initiative to help with his plea bargain. It happens all the time. Rex knows where he is, and said there's a good reason he's not in TC. If Rex knows where he is, and he is still not commenting on it, there really aren't many other possibilities. Don't worry it will all be confirmed in a couple weeks when he returns. Occams razor. I thought it was confirmed in the other thread. Either way it's true.
     
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  18. JdotGriff

    JdotGriff Well-Known Member

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    I did make it obvious. Sadly i was bullied with insults and threats of being banned till i realized i needed to change my wording in order to follow forum rules due to it not being in the media stream yet.
     
  19. KWJetsFan

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    And Barcs still doesn't haven't a link to his claim.

    Again....opinion, not fact.

    Occam's razor?? Is that like the red herring Barcs? You make it too easy.
     
  20. MoWilkNYJ

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    Let me know if you can't figure it out, I can try to help you out.
     

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