2009-10 World Champion Yankees Offseason Thread

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  1. IATA

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    IATA (12:04:39 AM): i didnt even think about it, but that would basically be 2 guys who give you 7-8 innings a week
    IATA (12:04:47 AM): the yanks would be fucking dangerous
    MBGreen16 (12:04:56 AM): they'll be unstoppable....literally

    Never mind, get him in Boston...
     
  2. AlioTheFool

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    Montero, plus Joba or Hughes, plus Austin Jackson? For a pitcher already on the wrong side of 30?

    Fuck. That. Shit.

    I want Halladay, but not that badly. Honestly, I'm not scared of him in Boston. I'm more scared of him in Philly coupled with Lee in a short series.
     
  3. TheCoolerGlennFoley

    TheCoolerGlennFoley Well-Known Member

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    No way I give up Montero in any deal for Halladay. That package would be good enough to get Felix Hernandez or Josh Johnson, let alone a guy we'd have to sign for big money afterwards.
     
  4. MBGreen

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    ^ oh man...I hope the jays rape the yanks.....Montero would look great with a blue bird on his cap next year.

    EDIT: And I agree with Alio...that's a steep price to pay for Halladay.....let's hope it happens :smile:
     
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  5. AlioTheFool

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    Exactly. If you're going to put together a package that includes Montero, Joba/Hughes, and AJax, there's no way it's for less than someone like Hernandez. A youthful, future Cy Young guy, or nothing at all. And even that I don't know that I'd do it. You're talking about a huge catching prospect (and there's still no guarantee that Mauer will be wearing blue pinstripes) as well as two potential front-end starters, as well as your best outfield prospect. For one player.

    I can't see Cashman allowing the Steinbrenners to strongarm him into that.

    Something else. Has Halladay mentioned waiving his no-trade for a Boston trade? I don't recall reading that anywhere. He never said it before the trade deadline either. There were hints that he would do it to be traded to the Yankees, but no chatter when it came to the Sox IIRC.

    He doesn't have to allow himself to be traded. He holds his own cards now. And he wants to win. Chances are, he feels the opportunity at a ring is better in the Bronx, which it certainly would be if they added him to the rotation. Hell, they'd be unstoppable. He may not even want to go to the Sox, and if the Yankees believe that he won't accept a Boston trade, they may wait out Toronto and see if they can get away with a steal.
     
  6. ToonWalker

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    Agreed.

    That would be an extarordinarily high price to pay for a 32-year-old pitcher, esp. for a championship team that doesn't need him to get "over the hump".

    There's no way that's anything more than bizarre-o speculation on someone's part.
    The Yankees wuld have to win 2 or 3 more WS with halladay in order for that trade to be worth it.

    Now if the Yankees wanted to deal Montero/Hughes/AJax for Felix Hernandez, I'd at least consider that.
     
  7. talisaynon

    talisaynon Well-Known Member

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    :rofl: yea, ok.
     
  8. IATA

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    That's the deal being discussed, so ya. Not like I'm making it up.
     
  9. MBGreen

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    I like that deal (with the Yanks)....a lot.
     
  10. AlioTheFool

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    Of course you do.

    1) You get an awesome truckload of talent back for a guy who isn't going to be a Blue Jay in 12 months no matter what

    and

    2) It means the Yankees are completely incompetent, thereby giving you the only shot at second place in the division you're going to have in your lifetime. :wink:

    There's no way Cashman gives up Montero, Hughes/Joba, and Jackson in one trade without getting a lot more than Halladay in return.

    I believe IATA is reporting correctly, but there's no way that's any more than either the Jays' Christmas list, or an overzealous reporter creating a story.
     
  11. MBGreen

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    I figure if I chant "WEPA" a few times....and kill a goat.....the trade happens.
     
  12. AlioTheFool

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    If you replace Brian Cashman with a goat, then maybe.
     
  13. IATA

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    Maybe they can throw in Vernon Wells for you guys, too!
     
  14. MBGreen

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    Even I don't think Cashman is that stupid.
     
  15. ToonWalker

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    Lol.
    Actually, I bet that if the Yankees took Wells in the deal they could get away with only trading a Melky Cabrera and Hughes-type package.

    Toronto would loooove to unload that absurd contract.
     
  16. AlioTheFool

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    Halladay and Wells for Hughes and Cabrera? I'd take that in a heartbeat. Personally, I think Wells will have a better year in 2010.
     
  17. MBGreen

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    Wells played with a banged up wrist all last year....and just had recent surgery to repair it. I think he'll be better next year also.

    Melky/Hughes for Doc/Wells isn't going to happen.
     
  18. Cappy

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    Say goodbye to Mauer if that happens.


    But it won't. The Jays would want more than that, I think.
     
  19. ace_o_spades

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    IDK Halladay is awesome, but I don't think giving up the farm is the right move at all for him. I'd rather sign Lackey and/or Chapman (is that his name? the kid that throws 100 mph?)
     
  20. ToonWalker

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    Ha, I think so, too.
    I'm just assuming that the Jays are desperate to deal Wells, and would be less demanding in a halladay trade if Wells is included.

    As far as Mauer, I expect that he'll sign an extension with Minnesota.
    However, if he became a FA, theres a decent chance that he'd sign at least the 2nd biggest MLB contract ever, no? He'd be leaving a ton of money on the table if he re-ups with Minnesota before the season ends.
    He and his agent are fully aware that both the Yankees and red Sox would be drooling all over him. A contract worth at least 25 mill per is not out of the question at all.
     

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