Thank you I thought it was just me. My love for football has been fading. Doesn't feel like the same game any more. Had enough of watching the Pats, Steelers or Broncos win the AFC every year. Jets can't get anything right and I don't see anything changing anytime soon
I still love football plenty, but when your family is composed of Packers, Steelers and Patriots fans, they just think you are a whiner when you bring up the league being broken because the system works to their advantage. Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk
If by some miracle the Jets go on a run next year, you'll be back. They'll suck you in. It's what they do.
The Pats are hard to watch at this point but the Fins of the 70's were worse, even though they weren't as dominant. In both cases the head coach went to the team because of a Jet's related rivalry and then dominated them. Having Shula go to the Fins because he hated Weeb beating him in Super Bowl III and then become dominant for a decade just blew chunks and I was barely cognizant of the rivalry at the time because it predated my fandom. With both Shula and Belichik it's important to note that the head coach had full control of personnel and a driving desire to grind the Jets to dust. Until we get a guy we can grow with for 10 years who really wants to beat the snot out of the AFC East it won't happen. Jon Gruden wouldn't create a dynasty for the Jets. He'd win once and then add the title to his trophy case and move on to do something else. You'd need Jon Gruden before he became Jon Gruden to get a dynasty out of him. Some really driven coach who doesn't buy into the NY/NJ media hype at all and is going to be fully capable of staying that way for a decade plus even after he's won a Super Bowl or two. He doesn't have to be a first-timer and he doesn't have to be young. Shula was a very good head coach in Baltimore before coming over to the Fins but he still had a chip on his shoulder from never winning a Super Bowl and he was still young at 40. Belichik was positively middle-aged from a football point of view when he took over the Pats at 48 and a previous head coach and he had a huge log on his shoulder from a half decade of being submerged under the Tuna with the Pats and the Jets. Both Shula and Belichik were pretty cerebral for their times. They both spent a lot of time thinking about how best to win games in the NFL and they both changed things up when needed to keep the dynasty going. If you were looking for the next Shula or Belichik you'd be looking for a guy with previous head coaching experience with a chip on his shoulder, still youngish in his 40's and with an out of the box approach to solving problems from year to year. You'd need to give him substantial control of the player personnel area, with a GM who worked as his caddy. He'd need to have demonstrated some success in his prior head coaching experience. The process of finding that guy is going to be tougher than Bob Kraft's was in 2000. The Jets can't afford to give up a 1st round pick at this point because that pick could easily be the QB they have been missing forever and it also could be the LT they will need to give that QB a fighting chance.
The idea of "playing for a contract" soars to new heights with the Jets. Seems like once they get paid, they end up on the back of a milk carton. Can't help but think things like that won't change until Woody is removed from the picture. A QB would certainly make a huge difference, but theirs a cultural issue with the franchise that also needs to be addressed. People mock "the Patriot way", but they get more out of just about any player they throw out on the field. And they win. A lot.
The Jets have had worse teams than this past season. But I cannot remember a less pleasurable viewing experience. Maybe I am just getting old and crotchety
2005 really sucked. That's my worst post-Kotite year because the wheels fell off of a team that had gone deep in the playoffs the year before and two of the broken wheels were Curtis Martin and Kevin Mawae both on their way out the door. That was also the year it became clear that Chad was never going to catch a break with the Jets. That's the year we finally transitioned from the Parcells talent base to whatever was going to be next. Since opening day of 2005 the Jets are 88-104 with 3 playoff appearances in 12 years. As Parcells would say: "you are what your record says you are" and the Jets have been pretty mediocre for a long time now.
As a Jets fan I am very disappointed with this team. Anyone with 20-20 vision can see that this team sucks. And given how truly bad the front office is, this only stands to get much worse. Darron Lee is just one of many inexplicably dumb choices Mac has made.
Interesting story on last year's QB: http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-j...oids-the-jets-can-reflect-on-a-painful-lesson Ron
Personally...I think this is rock bottom. This team cannot get anything right.There is no sense of organizational pride at all from top to bottom. The players don't care about being Jets beyond the NYC nightlife...and when you are facing an evil entity like the Patriots...you need a collective sense of fight to defend the logo. When the team gets humiliated(which happens quite often) somebody needs to unite everybody enough to care to fight back & restore some solidarity. That's how you overcome the Patriots. The steelers understand that. The Giants understand that too. It's about everybody coming together & deciding enough is enough. Whether it be for pride, the fans, the city....or just being damn sick of being beaten down like a dog...there has got to be a moment when the cornered beast has enough of being cornered.But we never see that from this team. Everyone is on their own island(no pun intended) & not willing to humble themselves to come together & refuse to be denied. It's no different with this head coach or the GM. I've never heard Bowles or the GM say a single thing about what it means to be a Jet, the team's history or anything beyond close to the vest cliches abut the next upcoming game. In many situations..that'd be fine. Not when you're the Jets with this team's history, the division they play in & whom their enemy is.I hate "the patriot way" more than words can properly articulate..but the Jets desperately need a rallying cry to combat that movement..b/c it's become larger than life & is obviously affecting games we play against them. This owner is bad news. He only wants to be heard when things are good..but a great owner is most present when things go awry. To assure the fans & remind the troops that the standard is high & the results must improve. Maybe he just doesn't care enough about winning. It seems to be more about the wine & cheese/who's who than it's ever gonna be about being a respectable football operation. Yes, he's willing to throw money at anything & everything...but anything beyond that is just lip service.He said himself he'd rather his favorite politician win the presidency than see the team he owns win their first damn super bowl since the phantom moon landing. Jets fans deserve better. They certainly don't deserve this clown who couldn't even deliver a home of our own.It maybe time for a boycott. We're about as passionate of a fan base as they come.Maybe our passion has become a detriment to this team. Senior management knows that regardless of how they conduct their football operation or the results on the field...we're gonna at least fill the stadium 3/4 capacity b/c we love tailgating & the game.We have to figure out how to make our message heard.I don't wanna come across as preachy...but it's time to put our differences aside...unite around our passion & disgust for what this team has become.We want a football operation that will not accept failure & conducts itself in a bold winning manner. Same with the Patriots nonsense. Yay rah rah...Brady is the "Goat" or ASS for that matter. That shit is all trivial. I'm tired of hearing Jet fans throwing up their arms in mercy proclaiming "respect" for those monsters.We know they cheat...they know they cheat. Why are we so afraid of calling them out for it?Why are we so quick to dismiss? Robert Kraft said himself the cheating helped "1%" in all contests. In a league of parity that 1% makes all the difference in the world. BB is always celebrated for how efficient & masterful his process is when it comes to winning. The cheating has clearly been a part of that process..proven again & again..highlighted by a damn federal investigation when a seemingly level headed investigator was left up in arms by how the patriots organization had conducted themselves.If he's so damn clever & masterful..and the cheating is so trivial...why continue putting yourself at risk for continued league punishment & a tarnished name? The answer is b/c it IS a large part of the "Patriot way"..and there is more than enough evidence to support that. Maybe other team's do some dabing here & there..but there have been plenty publications since 08 that have detailed how systemic the cheating is within that organization. Let them call us poor sports. Let them downplay it.Let them blame Goodel. Let them reference that ridiculous "Yourteamcheats" web site. We are fools if we allow the team we love to fall victim to this travesty. We are fools for downplaying it b/c we are afraid to call out the bully. Look how boston fans treated the Yankees from 96-01 & they didn't even cheat! It's time to let the hate flow through. Enough of the "Respect" crap. They are manipulating football games...and we as fans should be absolutely outraged.
Its rock bottom of the barrel....sad sad sad Boycott ?? Sure! Boycott the Knicks too!! Lucky us ..We get two of the biggest d^ckhead owners in the country The Dolans and Johnsons could care less about the fans Bowles the Faker has now assembled his faker staff of clowns ...whoopee should an entertaining deal We know about TB but I am expecting a lot more from Mac to at least grab us some players for the Offense
I think Jet fans could make more headway w. a boycott than the Knicks for acouple reasons. 1. Woody may not care about fans "suffering" but he does care about mass perception,empty seats & the back pages. If some kind of fan movement grew legs he would be posturing a great deal to try & combat it. For better or worse. Dolan on the other hand, has showed time & time again that he lives in a bubble & will seemingly do as he pleases regardless of public opinion or how many games they lose. 2. Hard to boycott a team for 40+ games...just too large of a sample size & too many variables. The jets however? If even 1 game was completely deserted w. a larger voice of fan protest...that would have massive repercussions on the bottom line. TB needs to show a pulse sometime soon or he's literally gonna get fired sitting on his hands. Either show some personality & give this team an identity or he'll be walking himself out the door Mac I think knows talent...the question is..should he be in say, Rex Hogan's place overseeing evaluations & offering his opinion to the decision makers....or can he actually BE the decision maker? I think he WILL get us good players...but i worry it'll be on defense yet again. In my opinion that gets us nowhere..
I really have a hard time supporting this? The only clear indictment I can make of Woody the way I see it is that he makes the wrong hires. He's a good owner because he keeps his mouth shut and lets football people run things. There's something to be said for that. That is a true virtue. Knowing enough to know that you don't know? It's just that Woody has made bad hires. That's the long and short of it.........
I'm not screaming for a boycott or anything...I don't take myself that seriously. If anyone got that from my post..I apologize. I'm just 1 pissed off fan trying to scan my brain for a solution within the fan's grasp...their isn't one. My issue w. Woody is that his power moves are always wrong & he does not set a standard for winning. I'm tired of the false bravado & pretending everything is dandy w. the team when in reality it's a disaster.Stop trying to sell PSL's, inviting celebrities to team events & battling for the backpages & get a clue about being the voice of reason and setting a winning standard.
Plus a million Its almost like knowing you have to parachute for the first time lol We all know what a spaz Bowles is but I will be done with Mac as well if he doesn't make up from signing old free agents and stupid draftees like Lee and Hack Bowles bringing a new circus to town on the CS with rookies and has beens to teach the kids. At least he will have company to learn how the clock is managed....laughable Best news is that overpriced players like Fitz Revis Skrine and losers like Richardson prob gone
I can see it now. Suck really bad and get the top QB. The 2018 NY Jets featuring Fournette and Darnold. Got a nice ring to it.
I think Fournette would be a fantastic pick..somehow though I think Bowles will pound the Table for a DB & get his way. This team needs a larger voice w. eyes on the offensive talent level in the worst of ways. If we think Boowles is gonna get excited for a dynamic power back..no matter how good he is...we are wrong.
