This is where we differ a bit in opinion which is ok. The Jets situation over the next two drafts is different from any team without a quarterback because of our draft capital. I’m perfectly comfortable with using a first both years on quarterback. This position is not only the most important position in football it’s the most important in all of sports imo. Plus it’s haunted us truthfully since broadway graced us with his presence. If using 16 this year and a 1st next year to get it done we have to take that calculated risk. We just have to given Allen/Maye are in the division as well. Practice reps can be managed. It’s been done before and can be done again.
Honestly, you sold me on Simpson. But is he worth burning 16th pick on? Where do you see him going realistcally?
It might be more than just 1st next year. I can see us winning 6-7 games and needing at least another 1st rounder to move up for a QB and then some. Would the team still do it when you just spent 16th on Simpson and didn't even fully evaluate him yet? This may not be as obvious as Josh Rosen. Rosen had 30 starts in College and played a lot his rookie year plus Arizona ended up with #1 pick. But what if Simpson plays only a few games if any at all and it is hard to tell? Do you just dump him before you know who he is yet and package multiple 1sts to move up to whoever is considered one of the top QBs in 2027 class? What would be your plan of action in that (fairly likely) scenario where we have not fully evaluated Simpson to know if he is good or not yet, and would need to package multiple 1sts to move up to get a 2027 guy? That's why Rosh Rosen type of scenario is quite unique in the NFL. Not because teams don't want to take cracks at QB, they just simply don't know after 1 year if you have the guy or not, and/or don't always get top pick the following year. Not that simple. Which is why if say Tate or another blue chiper is there for a trade up that won't cost too much or straight up at 16, I would take the blue chiper at another position over Simpson. If not, then maybe I would go with your suggestion. But we need to be prepared that likely means no top QB will be drafted by us in 2027.
I read where the Jets worked out QB Garrett Nussmeier of LSU. I get that they have to look at everyone, however, he is one prospect I hope they don't draft even in Rd. 7. I've seen him play a few times and was not impressed.
As the draft date approaches, and the forecasted picks, wishes and dreams by Jet fans intensify, I’m beginning to wonder if I’m the only one crazy enough to think that if a team falls in love with the second pick for whatever reason, Reese, Love, Tate, Simpson you name it, we should trade the pick in a nanosecond for a load like Cleveland did last year. We could move down from 2 to 4, 5, or six, get another 2nd round this year and a first next year. We will have every bit of ammunition we need to fix the holes this year and get a QB next year plus more. Just dreaming I guess.
Actually, if you were to poll most of the posters on this board, you’d probably find far more would be open to a trade back. Probably far greater than 50%
Let's keep in mind though that we do have 9 picks in this draft. With rookie UDFAs added, how many rookies will actually make the roster? For me given the draft capital we have, it is about quality, not necessarily quantity. We did get a lot of mid range guys in free agency. It would be good to get a couple of blue chip guys now in the draft, a couple of starters and a little bit of depth. But I do not get the sense that we have so many depth holes that we need to get this many rookies to play this year.
Well yeah it would all depend on this hypothetical offer, but if it was to move down only a couple or three spots, you could do it and still land one of Bailey, Reese, or Bain, it’d be hard to pass that up…unless they REALLY LOVE one of these guys, whether it’s Reese or Bailey
I don’t see us winning 6-7 games in all honesty I see it more as 2-5 games. Glenn has done nothing to show me he can be a good coach to triple his amount of wins… Simpson is a sound QB and I feel he can be a FQB. The sample size is small no doubt but I do feel that he is more pro ready than Mendoza because of the scheme he played with under Grubbs. He’s mechanics are very good, he takes care of the football which shows excellent awareness and his pre snap reads through motions are excellent as well. His size is my only real concern. Then if we are a top 5 pick again take another QB and let them compete like Montana/Young or ARod/Favre or RG3/Cousins. It’s a good problem to have.
I think he could go as high as 3 overall in all honesty. I doubt he slips out of the first round. I think he doesn’t get past the Fins second pick 30th overall.
I’m not sure the Jets truly want to draft Simpson within their current top 4 picks but I agree with your premise ….
I watched him play one game this past season early on and I remember he was pulled and I was more impressed with his back-up…
Good question, but I feel like there’s barely a Plan B (Simpson)…I don’t think there is a Plan C I am not gung ho on using a 3rd or 4th rounder on a QB as so so many of them fail…the likelihood of finding the next Dak Prescott or Russell Wilson are SO low…and for us specifically, the chances are exactly ZERO…we’ve NEVER drafted a decent QB in the mid rounds, and I’ve seen nothing from this coaching staff that gives me ANY hope that AG would be able to make something out of a mid-round QB…shit, I don’t think he’d be able to do much with a highly drafted QB to be honest…but to me, it feels like if we are past round 2, let’s not waste a pick
I hear you but Rockinz seems to know QBs. Rather than focus on the past, I'd like to think Reich and Musgrave (sp?) might have an eye for talent. Also, I think we're better off making sound decisions rather than swinging for the fences. We know all too well picking second or third hasn't guaranteed us a FQB. I'd rather have a QB who is smart, can process quickly, take what the defense gives him, and can play in cold weather than the million dollar arm, ten cent brain type. Living up in New England I witnessed the transition from golden arm Drew Bledsoe to worst-combine-ever Brady
No matter how good their eye for talent is, anything below mid second round, the probability to be FQB is almost non existent. We have one really good player right now in the NFL who was drafted past that point to become the team's FQB, and that is Dak, who was drafted in 4th round 10 years ago. Unless you are thinking to draft a long term back-up, you are wasting the pick.
You forgot about Brock Purdy, Jalen Hurts (albeit higher second round). I created a post on this a few days back where I researched this. The reality is that SB winners were dominated by QBs who were NOT QB1 in the draft; it's almost cursed I agree first round dominates for QB selection but again it's often not the first so we should be considering them all. Given our situation, where we're so desperate that we signed Fields and now Geno (who I have and will wish well) it seems crazy to just punt on the position this year, hoping that we suck enough next year that we'll get some great QB. Then add to the fact the volatility. Guys who are considered QB1, or can't miss early in season seem to fizzle Bottom line IMO given the positional value, and our draft capital, it's more than ok for us to reach a little for QB prospect. The issue is who and where. I'm not smart enough to figure out if Ty is the guy or someone else and what draft slot makes sense. But if we don't consider this an absolute top priority, if not the top, it helps explain why we suck so bad. If we do draft Simpson or whoever else, or even if we draft some "can't miss" next year, I'm hoping we're smart and patient enough to let the guy sit for a while
