So I just did about 5 minutes of research and I guess Anthony Lynn is one of the best coaches to use on offense in Madden, so now I understand why barf likes his abs so much. Mike Vrabel is another one. I wonder if we'll hear Anthony Lynn's name soon.
I’m starting to get frustrated with all these interviews. You know the interview process for HC, arguably the most important non player position on the team, has been a major disappointment or at least uninspiring so far here at TGG as we spend more time discussing the finer points of the Rooney rule instead on worrying about getting the best possible candidate that can turn this sad franchise around. The mighty 33 team has shown very little interest on a HC with offensive depth and experience, be it McCarthy, Kingsbury, Monken and the like. The Rooney rule does zippo as far as finding the best candidate. We need talent and leadership no matter the diversity. The Jets have always being stellar at complying with the Rooney rule yet we failed miserably at selecting coaching talent.
The 33 team has replaced Saleh asWoody's personal cheerleader, Woody said lets go to the blast from the past and trying hiring a defensive coordinator for the 11th time and Tanny getting that big check from Woody regardless of future Jets success got the pom poms out. Tanny or the 33 team don't give a crap about the Jets future Success they already can get clients based on Washingtons success, all they care about is getting that big fat check and if that means telling Woody what he wants to hear so be it.
Yup, that's the term the census department uses now, it is somewhat more specific than "Arab". I still cannot find any definition that the NFL uses for minorities or diverse, except perhaps "female." I say perhaps because they don't seem to specify if that refers to what's on a birth certificate or if it's a matter of personal identification. I asked about Saleh in response to someone posting he had gotten an interview as if it was going to result in a job for him - it could but it could also be a way towards satisfying the Rooney Rule now that it has been shown the NFL has categorized him as such in the past. He's scheduled to interview in Dallas tomorrow, apparently for the HC job.
Disagree. Unless the 33Team was put together to make a few bucks quickly and then fold up their tent one would have to believe that they are in it for the long run and they'll only get a long run if their work consistently adds value. Nobody builds a car that they know will piss off every owner and die out in five years as long as they get paid today; nobody opens a restaurant without caring about the food and service as long as they can bill somebody a hundred bucks tonight. I could not care less how much 33 bills the Jets, Johnson can afford it and he has proven time and time again that he is not equipped to hire people to lead the Jets out of the ditch whether he does it alone, with NFL relics or with an everyday headhunter organization. I'd be interested in knowing what method you believe the Jets should use to hire key people for the organization.
But the purpose of the rule is to increase minority head coaches. Yes Tomlin was the last minority head coach hired in 2007 to win a Super bowl, he was hired when George Bush was the president. That's how long its been. My point is the NFL should push to hire the best not push to increase minority head coaches.
Hey, it worked for Dick Vermeil in Philadelphia, in the movie "Invincible!" Why not!?! I say, open up the stadium and let anyone and everyone who wants to be a HC or GM come down to the stadium and throw their hat in the ring! Maybe "we" could find OUR Vince Papale!
Okay, here's my ideal choice for HC: Aaron Glenn - no BS kind of guy, will demand accountability, and a Jets legend. My fantasy OC would be Anthony Becht. Yes that Anthony Becht, former NYJ TE. Watched him coach in the UFL for two seasons. This guy is cerebral, outcoached former NFL head coaches, knows how to manage the clock and had a potent offense in St. Louis with the Battlehawks, and of course ties to the team. Any thoughts?
Eh it’s goofy to analyze it like that though dude. Only 13 head coaches have won the SB since then and how many head coaches have been through the revolving door in that time period?
I think he makes a good point though. The goal of the rule isn't to have successful minority coaches, only to have more minority coaches with the assumption that more minorities will result in successful minority coaches. We saw with how the 49ers basically campaigned to get Saleh hired somewhere that there's something of a conflict of interest with these draft picks awarded. The Jets interviewing Louis Riddick doesn't help the cause either. Instead of embracing that rule and finding the absolute best minority candidates, it's either that the guy is conveniently a good candidate that gets hired, or that it's a token interview based on his skin color.
Can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped, guarantee Woody is still meddling in 33team's decisions that's why we are down to Aaron Glenn and Flores basicly when there are 1000 other candidates more qualified for the job.
That’s different than the Rooney rule though. The draft pick nonsense is absurd. I’m not even necessarily defending the Rooney rule but I don’t think SOXX’s method makes sense to weigh SB wins as a way to measure success.
It's actually part of the Rooney Rule since like 2000: https://operations.nfl.com/inside-football-ops/inclusion/the-rooney-rule/#:~:text=If a team lost a,compensatory pick for three years. In November 2020, team owners approved a proposal rewarding teams who developed minority talent that went on to become GMs or head coaches across the league. If a team lost a minority executive or coach to another team, that team would receive a third-round compensatory pick for two years. If a team lost both a coach and personnel member, it would receive a third-round compensatory pick for three years. That rule has now turned minority hires into currency. I'm not sure about whether a coach can get their previous teams awarded multiple times but if Saleh goes back to the 49ers as DC then gets a HC job elsewhere, they could conceivably flip him for another 2 third round picks.
I edited my response after I sent it, but I don’t really think any of this should be in place any more. I think NFL owners as a whole would probably hire my dog to be the head coach if they felt she could coach a QB to be Mahomes. The draft pick for minority hires is wild. But I still don’t think trying to weigh SB winners as a metric for effectiveness makes any sense. The whole equilibrium of SB winners as a metric is fucked because of how few coaches win SB’s.
You're right about that, there's not enough data to give an honest assessment, but merit has to play into it in some measurable way.
i feel like woody is a fucking cheapskate and will hire a new guy rather than an experienced coach. i dont know the numbers but he has never hired an experienced coach outside of the wack job gase. herm was a first timer, mangini, rex, bowles and saleh were all first time hcs. last year they spent 5 mill on the hc and 3 mill on the gm. there were only 3 hcs making less last season. i think he also doesnt want a guy that knows what a head coach should be dealing with. so he can meddle and do all the dumb stuff he does. experienced guys arent going to deal with the absurdity of woody. i think that is also why he likes both guys to report to him and he doesnt have anyone really overseeing anything football wise other than his own dumb ass. did i mention hes a cheap fuck, i think i remember him saying he could make more money doing something other than football.
