Will Rex's DC deliver Rex-style D for Jets?

i hear he's bringing his LB coach in to take over the defensive coordinator position. first, adios sutton, second, who is this guy and will HE bring the same intensity?

edit:sutten->sutton

 

and third: how long will it take the Jets to master what the Ravens have been doing for ten years

 

I know that the Parcells-Belicheck-Groh defense did blitz a bunch. But I was thinking this could be the most blitz happy pressure defense the Jets have played since Pete Carroll was here.

 

Honestly, I don't think Rex would hire his LB coach, if he didnt think he could bring the same defensive intensity. also if Pettine has any questions about what Ryan would do when game planning, all he has to do is ask. Can't ask for a better situation to help recreate Ryan's defense without actually having him coach the defense himself.

 

He is Mike Pettine and I am sure if he does bring him that it is for the express reason that this guy knows the defense that Ryan wants to run. The other guy I wouldn't have minded seeing was Keith Butler who has the same job now in Pittsbutgh.

 

There have been quotes elsewhere that Ryan would hire Pettine, but that Rex would be the one calling the plays.

 

how long until we hear about the quitting of Shotty?

 

ESPN is saying the Jets are hoping Ryan keeps him...I am hoping not. At least it semms to be, by that, that it is his choice as it should be.

 

H'mm to play Raven/Pitt smashmouth D we will have to do a awful lot of upgrading starting at DL then LBers & finally DBF

 

Or just issue brass knuckles and lead pipes.

 

Huge questionmark right there....

 

Lunchtime if we're lucky..

 

I'm cautiously excited...as that's what I have learned being a Jets fan. I hope he brings with him an aggressive style defense and an attitude to the sidelines.

THANK GOD SUTTON IS GONE!!!!

 

Most reports are saying the Jets want Rex to hold on to him, but its not mandatory, and Rex has said he would consider keeping him on. If he keeps our offense and ST intact, that would allow him to concentrate on getting our defense straightened out. I have my questions about our offense, but this move could keep us competitive next season. It should be an interesting week or 2 as we get to see the shuffling around of coaches. I am sure he knows the fans here aren't going to be happy here with a losing season regardless of the circumstances.

 

Ryan will be calling the Defensive plays, so the bigger question will be the offensive play-calling.

Rex will need to have a lot of faith in the person that's calling the offensive plays.

 

Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Tony Siragusa, Peter Boulware, Mike Mcrary, Rod Woodson, Chris McAlister, Terrell Suggs, etc. This is what made the Ravens defense great. Not Marvin Lewis, not Mike Nolan and not Rex Ryan.

Anybody expecting Ryan to make our 3-4 great does not understand what actually has happened on the Ravens defensive unit as they switched from 4-3 to 3-4 and stayed dominant the entire time. There is no way in hell that Ryan comes in here and does more than marginally improve our 3-4, not unless he gets to bring the players from Baltimore over with him. There are like 3 or 4 hall of famers that are playing on that defense or have retired recently. that's why they are good.

Ryan is no more likely to be successful with us than Lewis was in Cincinnati and Nolan was in San Francisco. I'll be hoping he succeeds but I'm guessing we just wasted another 3 years of my life. Bringing Ozzie Newsome over, the guy who found all those players, that would have made a difference. Bringing one of the guys lucky enough to coach them over here probably did not.

 

No matter what our D is gonna be 2x better under Rex then it would ever have been under Mangini and Sutton.

 

This is probably the worst argument for not wanting Ryan as HC.

Tell me, was there ever a great DC who didn't have good players on the field? Johnson, Dick LeBeau (sp?), Spagnuolo, etc. all have great defensive players.

Each coach is different, and comparing Ryan to Marvin Lewis or Mike Nolan isn't fair or sensible.

Ryan is known by all to be a great playcaller and defensive schemer, and that's what makes him a great DC and hopefully a good HC.

 

Mike Pettine was retained by the Ravens as the Outside Linebackers Coach on January 30, 2008.

Mike Pettine (pronounced PET-tin) entered his 3rd season as the outside linebackers' coach and his 6th year as a Raven in 2007. Baltimore finished 1st in the NFL in overall defense, posted a franchise-high 13-3 record in 2006, and secured a 1st-round bye in the playoffs. Besides coaching OLBs, Pettine is also a computer specialist, who has produced innovative coaching programs that utilize football video to develop playbooks for offense and defense and to analyze game video of opponents.

Overview: Named OLBs coach in 2005...Pettine works directly with defensive coordinator Rex Ryan who says: "Mike is my right-hand man. Our backgrounds are very similar. My father is a legendary NFL coach and his father is a legendary football coach, who recently retired as the winningest HS football coach in Pennsylvania history. I know Mike will make a name for himself in this league. He's one of the best communicators I know, and he relates well with the players. He's smart, and he's dedicated."...Named defensive assistant in 2004...Spent 2 years working with the D-Line after a year as a coaching assistant/quality control specialist.

2002-2006: (with Baltimore)

2006: Four Raven LBs made the Pro Bowl, Ray Lewis, Bart Scott, Adalius Thomas, Terrell Suggs ? both Thomas and Suggs were selected through voting process...Thomas posted 11 sacks, Suggs 9.5, which nearly made the Ravens the 1st team in NFL history (since the league recognized sacks as an official stat in 1982) to boast 4 players with at least 10 sacks apiece during a season...(DT Trevor Pryce recorded 13 sacks and LB Bart Scott tied Suggs with 9.5)...Ravens recorded 60 sacks (2nd) to Chargers 61...Defense has allowed 1,833 points (16.4 ppg) over the past 6 seasons, the best mark in the NFL and more than 100 points fewer than the next best defense (Tampa Bay-1,940 points).

2005: Pettine's OLBs set new marks...Thomas and Suggs, made an impact at the hard-hitting position, combining for 11 of the team's final 18 sacks (last 5 games) and accounting for 6 sacks in the final 3 games...Despite being double- and sometimes triple-teamed, Suggs set a career-high 86 tackles, finished 2nd on the team with 8 sacks and tied a career high with 6 FFs...Thomas set a new career high with 9 sacks and set a franchise record with 3 defensive returns for TDs...Adalius was voted team Most Valuable Player by the Baltimore media...LB Peter Boulware remained the Ravens' sack king, reaching 70 for his career and hitting the 500-tackle milestone...LB Roderick Green played in 16 games, subbing on defense (posting 2 sacks), but finishing 2nd in special teams tackles (17).

2004: Promoted to defensive assistant and helped coach the defensive line with Ravens veteran D-Line coach Rex Ryan.

2003: Assisted and coached the D-Line with Ryan...Using computer technology, Pettine assisted in developing playbooks, producing scouting reports, and analyzing game video of opponents as a quality control specialist.

2002: Worked as an assistant in football video operations...Also assisted the Ravens' coaching staff.

1997-2001: (with North Penn HS) 1999: Pettine's squad was featured on ESPN's original documentary The Season...Show aired in 2000...His Knights won 45 games in 5 seasons, including the 1st of 2 playoff appearances in school history. 1997: Named head football coach at North Penn HS.

1995-96: (with William Tennent HS) 1996: Team established a school record with 9 wins. 1995: Named head coach.

1993-94: (with U. of Pittsburgh) Served as a defensive graduate assistant under head coach Johnny Majors for the Panthers.

1988-92: (with Central Bucks West HS) Was an assistant coach for his father, Mike Pettine Sr., who recently retired as the winningest coach in the history of HS football in the state of PA...Mike Sr. had a 326-42-4 record in 33 seasons.

COLLEGE: Graduate of the University of Virginia with a degree in economics...Played at UVA under head coach George Welsh (1984-1987) and was a 2-year letterman at-free safety (1986-87)...Led the team in picks in 1986 with a school-record 3 INTs in 1 game (vs. North Carolina State).

PERSONAL: Attended Central Bucks West (Doylestown, PA) HS...Lettered in football and basketball...Was All-State at quarterback and defensive back...Mike and his wife, Marlene, live in Westminster, MD with their 3 children: Megan (13), Ryan (10) and Katie (6).

COACHING BACKGROUND: 1988-92 (Central Bucks West HS); 1993-94 (U. of Pittsburgh); 1995-96 (William Tennent HS-head coach); 1997-2001 (North Penn HS-head coach); 2002-07 (Baltimore Ravens)