Main Canidates: Justin Morneau - Power hitter on the Twins Derek Jeter - 2nd in BA on team Jermaine Dye - One of the White Sox power hitters David Ortiz - AL Home Run Champion Frank Thomas - Leader of the AL West A's Joe Mauer - Catcher leading the league in BA Johan Santana - Cy Young favorite, leader in triple crown of pitching Let's debate on who will win the MVP and who should win. Stats and proof will be required for this conversation. My picks: Will win: Jeter - media darling(they do the voting) with 2nd high BA on team Should: Ortiz - out homers the rest of the AL by 11(54-43) not including fact he was gone for a week cause of something that could of been fatal, won't win because team's collapse due to injuries though 2003 AL MVP provides precedence of a non-playoff team league MVP. Not even in the top 5 pick: Santana - If Perdo couldn't win in '99 Santana shouldn't even be in the top 5 in voting with these candidates.
Probably Jeter. He's had a great year, on the best AL team Second: Santana. Guys been amazing, and the Twinkies have come back to get to the playoffs. Amazing.
Who should win: Morneau, without whom the Twins offense could not function (it's no coincidence that until he became a producer in their lineup they were well out of contention.) Who will win: Jeter, who without question saved the Yankees season and is a fine choice for MVP. I just don't think that he statistically has a good case against Morneau, but you sure won't hear me complaining if he wins.
Jeter will probably win. If you go by win shares and runs created, Jeter should win. If you go by pretty much everything else, it's wide open (Morneau, Santana, Dye, Thome, etc.)
The fact that Jeter's a metrosexual and likes to dress up should have absolutely no bearing on the MVP discussions for this year.
Your arguement is flawed, seeing your beloved former catcher died his hair more than Paris hilton...:smile:
I guess you must have overlooked my previous 37,584 posts of substance that went in vain. So now I'm just stooping down to some already common levels on this forum. Not only is Jeter better than Reyes, but so is Nick Green.
Johan Santana hands down, if there was ever a year for a pitcher to win the CY & MVP this is the year. Not only has Santana been the most dominating player in the AL, there is just noone else that is more deserving for MVP than him this year.. I doubt he'll get it though.
You should know how to spell Derek Jeter's name by now and ortiz doesn NOT deserve the MVP this year. he did last year but he faded late as did his team regardless of th circumstances.
Ortiz faded? 5 HRs 9 RBIs in 8 days, yep that's fading. Ortiz didn't fade the team fell apart due to injury and his own and still manage to out homer the AL by 11. He does deserve the MVP if A-rod can win it for a POS team like Texas I think Ortiz can win it over I do nothing but hit Jeter. If a Yankee should win the MVP it should be the Phillies GM for giving them an All-Star hitter and a pitcher for shit and $$$ cause Jeter is so great they had to add an All-star to help them.
:rofl: :rofl2: David Ortiz, who is one of the top 5 worst fielders and top 5 worst baserunners in the game, should win it over "I do nothing but hit" Jeter? Jeter with 2 consecutive Gold Gloves and 30 steals? Are you for serious??? Out of all the valid arguements to choose Ortiz over Jeter, you decided to say that Ortiz is a more well rounded player?
This is 2006 not 2004 or 2005. Worst fielders? How the f would you know he's a DH, with a .409 OBP he can't be that bad on the bases with a 100% steal rate he's alright. Jeter is playing like an average SS this year with his hitting saving his butt. Jeter is a single hitter vs. extra base hitter Ortiz. Can anyone make a legit argument without looking at the teams, this is an individual award not a team award.
Morneau: I think he should be given a lot of consideration for the MVP but I don't think he will win it because he is more unknown than most of the other players. Jeter: Clearly a little bias in this post. Everyone else has positive stuff and Jeter has "2nd BA on team". But anyway, he carried the Yankees through the whole season. He was there through all the injuries (Sheffield and Matsui) and kept the Yanks winning. Jermaine Dye: Similar to Morneau's numbers but didn't make the playoffs. I think a player has to have some pretty extraordinary numbers to win the MVP after his team falls apart at the end and he just doesn't have them. Ortiz: Pretty crazy numbers figuring he was out part of the year but again his team didn't make the playoffs. Plus, in my book, he hurt himself when he publically attacked Jeter about the MVP. I thought he should have focused a little more on improving his teams record than indivdual awards. Definitly has a shot to win. I'm also not a big fan of a DH winning. If you can't even play half of the game you don't deserve most valuable player. Frank Thomas: With those numbers I can't even make a case for him. Even though he did lead his team to the playoffs. Mauer: Same team as Morneau and I think that Morneau was the more valuable player on the Twins despite Mauer's average. Shouldn't win it. Johan Santana: Excellent numbers this year but I hate making a case for a pitcher that didn't even win 20 games. I know the numbers are extraordinary and he will win the Cy young but I have him 3rd. Winner: Derek Jeter Runner Up: Justin Morneau 3rd: Santana 4th: Ortiz
Wow, I figured that you must have made a typo at first but you actully believe Ortiz, the DH who can't play first base (the easiest freaking position on the field) and can't run for ****, is a better fielder and baserunner than Jeter. How do I know what kind of a fielder Ortiz is? Because I've seen him play the field in years past, before the Sox realized that it just wasn't going to work. If you'll recall a few years back he actually blew a game against the Yankees because of his glove.
Can't??? The Red Sox don't need Ortiz to play first, they do have other players to play first just like the Yankees have other guys to play first instead of Giambi. That's it.
