who cares who the quarterback is!

As soon as everyone here realizes that it's not all Chad's fault the better we are to come to grips that there may be more losses upcoming than wins. The defensive front is pathetic in rushing the QB/stopping the run and the offensive line is not up to giving Chad more time to throw.

It's so true what they say about football: "The game is won and lost in the trenches"

 

wow are you fucking serious. why dont you guys just get a guitar and sit around a campfire.

wake the fuck up, the ship is sinking. i dunno about you but im tired of watching anything over 15 yards be considered deep.

i also would like to get a feel for what clemens can actually do. instead of us cutting chad next year and investing everything in clemens. we can either find out if clemens can right the ship in a yr or two. or we can find out if we need to spend our draft pick on a qb. cuz we certainly should be spending our first 4 picks on both OL/DL.

i love how people write things off and act as if playing clemens is throwing in the towel. and whats even worse is people who think its ok to lose just because it might give us a shot at a top player.

 

Excellent post. I remember thinking that we'd have to take a huge step back when Pennington came in to start and we sent Vinny to the elephant graveyard. That was early 2002. While I expect to take a step back with a young QB like Clemens, it's not way outside the realm of possibility that he could lead the team on a run. I think part of the reason Chad was so effective in 2002 was because no teams had any game film on him.

 

thanks abyz, thing is I'm totally ready for Clemens. watching him air it out against the ravens reminded me what exciting football is. watching us is now like watching the bucs of 00-04 without the good defense.

furthermore, I'll say this. Id rather watch Clemens throw picks with the chance of him scoring faster with his deep ball ability rather than watch Chad throw picks, and then take over 8 mins to drive us to the red zone, only to watch the drive blow up in our face.

 

So sad that people already saying where just playing for "Draft Position" its only Week 5!!!

 

He had plenty of time last week. I don?t know what game you watched? Five yard "Tosses" will be picked off again. Late minuet heroics usually end up being a sad ending. Yes we have Major holes every where but we controlled our destiny in that final drive and Chad blew it, does that Make him a terrible Quarter back no.

 

we are going to playing?

THERE is not a for sure win left, you're right, but it's pretty early to throw the season.

 

Not at all!


Where is the "GJC" smiley!

 

Quote of the day.
I don't have enough hair in my head to pull out watching Chad throw 4 yard BOMBS.

 

how the fuck is him starting next year any more magical and beneficial than him starting now. first you post that this year is a wash and we'll be a top 10 pick so who starts doesnt matter. then once you hear people say they want clemens now. all of a sudden it does matter whos playing. your qb develops by playing. you can only learn so much from a chalkboard and a coach repeating himself. and ocne he starts, clemens will suffer here and there as any qb should their first few games.(even games is generous, usually a season)

the logic behind starting clemens now is, let him learn the speed of the game and get acclimaited to it first hand in a season where playoffs is a bleak hope. but by no means is that throwing the season. this is simply getting your starter ready for next year. and if you had enough confidence to not draft Cutler or Leinart and wait till the 2nd for this guy. you should have enough confidence to let the kid play over the person you drafted him to replace.

as time goes on this is becoming less of a strategy thing and more of a commons sense thing. i just dont get how people can be satisfied with mediocrity depsite the holes we have. theres too much talent on offense for us to not be able to score more. and our pass blocking isnt as bad as people believe it is. its our run blocking thats garbage.

 

I'm sorry to say I disagree completely with this mentality. This is an ultra-conservative, losing mentality, IMO.

You agree Clemens offers the deep ball, yet assume Clemens won't change the dynamics of the offense by stretching the field. Nothing gets the defense off your back better than deep passes. So, while I'm sure Clemens will still be "running his ass off" on occasion, he'll also bring the deep threat to the table, the Ravens game, to wit.

Also, in terms of development, it's not "brainless" to "see what he is like." We need to know more than what we saw in the Ravens game, right? Do you need to see any more of Pennington to know "what he is like?"

Everything in the NFL is a crapshoot anyway, just as life is a crapshoot. You take your chances and take risks if you want to succeed, otherwise, you go no where by default.

I say take the shot. The worst that happens is, we go down in flames like we're already exhibiting. The best that happens is, you discover you've got a Tom Brady in your midst and didn't even know it!

 

Not to mention, if anyone noticed, Clemens' brand of mobility when the pocket collapses is a slight bit more effective than the Tennessee Dead-Leg. Chad has his benefits but evading a sack is not one of them.

 

Reality can be that way. It's not like we are playing well and losing. We are playing terrible and losing.

 

clemens mobility is worth noting. and a true asset. he was even shiftier before he broke his tibia his senior year.

but im glad it hasnt taken away all of his ability. the guy reminds me of a young brett favre, i wouldnnt even compare them yet obviously, but hes definitely got a gunslinger mentality and likes to keep plays alive. thats more of a russian roulette attribute but something I admire if the player doesnt consistently choke.

 

stop with the rebuilding nonsense. we aren't rebuilding anything. we are just failing at filling our needs. you don't rebuild by spending half your draft on a cb when what you needed was a new ol and dl.

 

I'm having trouble finding any sense in this post.