181 rushing yards given up last night and most of that by the starters. If this keeps up it won't matter much what the offense does.
I said it in one of the other posts, OUR DEFENSE SUCKS!!! We are still seeing guys busting through the line, and getting chunks of yardage! WTF!!! If our D is gonna resemble what we've seen so far, I don't give a shit who's our QB, we are not going anywhere!
Washington had 9 carries for 42 yards through their first 5 possessions. Maybe not the stifling run D we hoped for but nowhere near cause for panic. The other nearly 140 yards was against our 2s and 3s, so not even close to "most of that by the starters". We'd already taken out most of our 1s before the 70+ yard jailbreak late in the 2nd quarter.
Betts had a couple of good pickups but outside of that the 1st unit played well against the run. I'm not concerned about guys who are going get cut getting gashed in the run game.
i wouldn't be surprised if we saw 4 and even 5 man fronts more often this year from mangini. he may be forced to do so...may depend on how the CB position plays out opposite revis. i want to see how long it will take mangini to realize that gholston will be better off around the line of scrimmage and not trying to cover zone in the flat...IMO, they should just have the rookie come in off the edge on passing downs and let him do one thing get the QB. he can become a more complete LB later on. go ask cowher, schottenheimer, and parcells what they did with greg lloyd, derrick thomas, and LT when they were younger. in fact thats what groh did with abraham in 2000 - before he blew out a hernia. quite frankly....the jets are still not a good enough team to survive a poor run defense. i don';t care if we have 11 favres on offense. one of the weaknesses of the 3-4 is you have a tendencey to give up chunks of yardage on the ground - usually between the tackles. conversely running wide is usually easier to defend. as you can see i have zero faith in the jets run defense in a big spot again this year. unless they hit the lottery with some young talent along the DL it will be a weak spot for years to come - and likely prevent the team from challenging the elite in the AFC. jil
Jeez this overreaction to 42 yards against a 1st D is scary. When ellis is back to compliment Jenkins that will make a huge difference.
More than half of that 42 against the first team came off 2 runs off LT. From what I remember the last 2 years teams seemed to consistently pickup 4,5,6 yards on us when they ran. What I saw when the first team D was out there last night just seemed different. It was a more consistent at stopping the run for a real short gain. The 16 and 10 yard runs can't just be thrown out the window, but I just felt more confident in the run D after watching it yesterday.
You can't make chicken salad out of chicken s-it? I forgot who was that poster telling everyone Jets defense was not good enough to be a top ten defense.(when everyone was claiming a top five defense) Does anyone knows what it tazkes to have a top five defense.
You're a moron. The first string defense was only out there for 2 series. And during that period, Gholston was clearly getting his footing, the pass rush was extremely improved, Pace was on his game, and the secondary looked good. Most of the rushing yards came from the 2nd and 3rd units, and from guys that won't be on the team in a week. It is a Preseason game, how about some perspective. Try removing your head from your ass, it might help get oxygen to your brain.
It's because the 3-4 sucks! If you put less mass on the line, it's easier to make homes.....pretty basic stuff! Oh, but we can switch things up on them right? We can add that 4th man coming from anywhere.....yeah right! You put all the other guys 3-5 yards away from the line....so BOOM, there's your first 3 yards right there, then the RB, who is undoubtedly more agile than an LB, only has to make a move and hall down and he has a 4-5 yard gain, or more. Run the 4-3! There's a reason it was the dominant scheme for so long!
It's the under-reaction to giving up nearly 5 yards a carry by our starters that is scary. I guess when that same group gives up 250 yards a game you will still be thrilled, right?
Don you area Stewnad who needed to post something so you came up with this brillaint one. Hello, our first team was off the field after 2 possesions. Our run defense was on the sideline zimala.
Most of that yardage was given up on big runs when MOST of the starters weren't in the game. On the contrary to your opinion, i think the first string run D played well, especially Kris Jenkins
