What an Owner with balls would do

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  1. FrontOfficeFanatic

    FrontOfficeFanatic Well-Known Member

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    Find a way to coordinate with the HC and GM to get it right at QB finally after all these years and tank for Caleb Williams next year. You won’t win anything in this league without an elite QB, especially now that you have all these studs in the AFC.

    How do you it? Start Zach Wilson and bring back this same Oline from last year. Breece is going to need all of next year to be close to what he once was.

    You would end up losing a lot of close games.

    Draft Caleb Williams and we are set for the next ten years. Make up for the suffering you cost your fans losing on Lawrence and grow a pair.

    Worst that can happen is we lose a first round pick lol

    Tell me something guys…..if you could make this happen, you wouldn’t take a real winless season
    to get a for sure 10 years of bliss? I would tank to get a QB because this team ain’t doing anything until we have a dude at QB.
     
  2. Wut?

    Wut? Well-Known Member

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    How do we tell our talented young core to suck for a QB?
     
  3. SoylentGreen

    SoylentGreen Well-Known Member

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    you tell them, guys we just need to suck for one year !!!…. and then we could maybe, just possibly have the next:

    Jarod Goff
    Alex Smith
    Carson Palmer
    Jeff George
    Baker Mayfield
    Sam Bradford
    Kyle Murray
    Jameis Winston
    David Carr
    Tim Couch
    Jamarcus Russell

    and be great for the next 10 years with multiple SB wins!!!!
     
  4. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Fuck that no more tanking. We’ve been doing that for 12 years straight. It is time to win
     
  5. Brook!

    Brook! Soft Admin...2018 Friendliest Member Award Winner

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    Who is Caleb Williams?
     
  6. SOXXX2

    SOXXX2 Well-Known Member

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    The only QB to be drafted #1 in the last few decades and win a Super Bowl for the team that drafted him was Peyton Manning with the Colts. Tanking doesn't work either.
     
  7. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The Fins are short a first round pick+ this coming season because the owner tried to get his HC to lose games on purpose.
     
  8. NYGalPal

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    Why would we try to tank next year when for all intensive purposes the Jets in theory are in good shape roster wise? The correct play is to improve the oline and get a somewhat competent QB.
     
  9. JoeWalton

    JoeWalton Well-Known Member

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    Kind of scary when an idea like this starts to make more sense than overpaying for a QB who is either on the decline or beyond his expiration date.
     
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  10. Borat

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    No, he was absolved of that, even though NFL did state that "on a number of occasions during the 2019 season, Mr. Ross expressed his belief that the Dolphins' position in the upcoming 2020 draft should take priority over the team's win-loss record." There was no punishment for that. Dolphins lost the pick for tampering on Brady and Sean Payton: https://www.nfl.com/news/dolphins-l...t-pick-owner-stephen-ross-suspended-following

    So, the owner did tell the coach to tank, but got no punishment, because there was no official agreement with the coach to tank. He was only stating his opinion that draft position is more important than wins, which is not a violation. So, basically, teams can tank if they want with no punishment. Why do you think Minshew was benched for Jaguars? Also the coach was told an opinion that draft position was more important.

    So, tanking is real, but that ship has sailed with Trevor Lawrence. Then we had a bad team, going through a rebuild, and there was an opportunity to tank. We did kinda tank by putting the worst coach in the League Gase and the worst QB in the League at the time: Sam. But it was not intentional coming from ownership, like it was for the Jags. Besides, even if we lost to the Rams and even the 3d stringers of Browns, Belichick would not allow us to get Trevor by tanking against us in the last game of the season with nothing at stake. At the end of the day we didn't have a real shot.

    Now we have a decent team, and we can't really tank. Also, the prize of shortie Caleb Williams as not as attractive as Lawrence was. Let's see what happens in a few years. Maybe When Arch Manning is coming out we will be bad again. That would mean we would have to go through another rebuild. Right now though tanking or just losing enough games to get a #1 pick is not in the cards for some time.
     
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  11. Ralebird

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    You realize that Caleb Williams will come with the exact same guarantee that Zach Wilson came with, right? There is no promise of "elite" anything in the NFL draft.

    The team that tanks for any draftee is setting itself up for failure; to develop a team with a winning culture you don't half-ass a single game, ever. There is no "for sure" and that's for sure.
     
  12. Br4d

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    Tanking was part of the investigation. Maybe not the part they sanctioned on but the league was sending a clear message that purposeful tanking followed through upon was sanctionable.
     
  13. dawinner127

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    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    No more smidget QB's.. Just no...
     
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    Insane there's a bunch of fans here who want to continue to tank. Is losing that comfortable?
     
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    I am not tanking for anyone.
    I think Drake Maye will be a better NFL QB than Caleb Williams.
     
  18. Jets-N-Terps

    Jets-N-Terps Well-Known Member

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    Well, if that's the case, I hope Woody has a vagina.
     
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  20. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Right? Dumb threads like this don’t factor in that losing and playing poorly costs individuals money they can never recover.

    Why does everyone think Elijah Moore was so annoyed with not getting the rock?
    They’re both unbelievable. Glad to see he went back to UNC. I think there’s only been two quarterbacks in my lifetime that we worth tanking for as a sure bet. And one of them optionally ended their own career.
     
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