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  1. Martin&theJETS

    Martin&theJETS Well-Known Member

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    Right now we are just a few pieces away from being legit contenders.

    QB: Geno (He's the guy off of current reports) has talent. He's a football player and I believe he truly wants to get better. I'm sure he will. He's turning the ball over as a Rookie, big deal. It's a common thing. I think he will finish the season near 1:1 TD to INT, I think he gets two seasons at least as the starter.

    RB: Our Committee is fine. Ivory has been showing a lot and Powell is serviceable. Maybe a late round pick could help, not major.

    WR: Huge need. We need that #1 threat. Hill will get better but he can't be depended on as a #1, #2 yet. Take some pressure off the kid and he will make plays as a #3, #4 at worst then work his way up. Everyone is serviceable. Kerley, Nelson and Salas all are capable of making plays. I believe Kerley can be a #2 and I wouldn't be surprised to see Holmes back at a reduced rate surprisingly. It would be wise to take a WR with our 1st rounder. I would also look at a receiver in the later rounds just to bolster the position.

    TE: Huge need. We need a pass catching threat. Winslow and Cumberland can make plays just not consistently. We need a Jordan Cameron, Jordan Reed. We should take the best TE available in the 2nd.

    OL: A big need. We have an average O-Line. We should make a solid and then a serviceable, cheap OL signing in the FA. We should then use a 4th on OL. Brick is fine, winters could be replaced, mangold is fine, colon could be replaced, most likely will be, and Howard is average. The problem lacks with subpar play from the interior lineman. We need solid guards.

    DL: The DL is the most solid area of this team. No need for addition.

    LB: We could def use a consistent pass rusher from the OLB position. Barnes was doing a hell of a job but he went down. Hopefully he can still make plays next year. Coples will come up big but will disappear. He is a good player and will hopefully be more consistent. He will not be replaced. Harris and Davis are solid. Look to add someone at OLB in the draft with one of our 3rds.

    DB: Add someone with decent production to medium pay to play CB. Cromartie isn't done but he is getting older. Wilson and Milliner look awful at times but they are serviceable

    S: Our safeties aren't awful but they are average at best. I actually like Allen but Landry could be replaced. He's serviceable and Ed Reed will make more positive plays then plays that will hurt us. If we use a 3rd on a safety I feel like it will def make the position a little bit more effective.

    FA:

    Solid OL signing (medium pay)
    Cheap OL signing
    Decent CB signing (medium pay)

    Draft:

    1. WR
    2. TE
    3. OLB
    3. S
    4. OL
    5. WR


    Is it me or does this just make too much sense. Maybe I'm being optimistic, however if we address just a few we are a solid playoff team. As long as we address WR thoroughly, and add a couple of linemen we are playoff team for sure. With a year for Geno to work with Marty and this squad to build some chemistry I think Genos play will increase to one of an average level. I could see Geno with a 20 TD to 15 INT stat line in his 2nd season. With a defense like ours, QB play like that is just enough to put you in the playoffs.

    Maybe I'm being a homer considering that we aren't 3-7 thanks to two game deciding penalties but I feel that the spark is there we just need a playmaker to ignited it.
     
  2. Mitch_Dumstein

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    Drafting for need

    A guaranteed recipe for failure

    Fortunately Mr Idzik won't do it

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  3. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, drafting for need is surest way to fail.

    We have plenty of holes so we will have plenty of opportunities for BPA at various positions. We should focus on using some of our cap room to upgrade our outgoing UFAs

    Free agents that would help out team in a big way (just give me half of these guys):

    Jimmy Graham TE (Saints) - Replace either Cumberland UFA or Winslow UFA
    Brandon Pettigrew TE (Lions) - Replace the other bum we have now
    Jarius Byrd FS (Bills) - Replace Ed Reed
    Brian Orakpo OLB (Redskins) - Replace Calvin Pace UFA
    Ben Tate RB (Texans) - Will beat somone on our roster for a job
    Eugene Monrow OT (Jaguars) - Replace Austin Howard UFA
    Jon Asamoah OG (Chiefs) - Replace Willie Colon UFA
    James Jones WR (Packers) - Replace Santonio Homles (Buh Bye)
    Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB (Broncos) - If he will play for cheap I would give him a chance to reunite with his cousin
     
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    Good choices

    Some like Graham and Byrd might break the cap tho

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  5. feldspar

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    That's the one you need to watch. I wouldn't just assume he'll get better...and he'll have to get A LOT better for the Jets to be a playoff team. The Jets would be remiss to not AT LEAST bring another QB in to seriously compete for the job. In fact, I see that as one of the main priorities.

    A decent QB may be more important than all those other needs combined.
     
  6. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Going from playoff team to SB team requires you to have a couple guys with their kind of talent. Both guys are young enough to lock up and spread out the cap hit. We will pay for these guys after Brick and Mangold's contracts are up.
     
  7. Kentucky Jet

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    we need more then just a decent QB. We need a guy who can play mistake free and pick up the play of those surrounding him. That calls for an above average QB darn near Franchise- type! Id suggest bringing in a young vet with a strong arm. Cutler could be available but a strong mind is necessary in NY as well.
     
  8. Kentucky Jet

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    From where I sit I do not think NICK & BRICK are playing anywhere near the level they were playing at. Is it age? Is it worrying about the OG play? I do not know but they are NOT playing that great themselves.
     
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    Finish this season 1:1 ratio? In order for him to get 1:1 - TD to Turnover ration he would need to throw 2 TD per game without any turnovers.

    Let's see hm get to 10 TD passes first before we have him going on an epic 6 game run.
     
  10. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

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    If you have a franchise QB then you are almost always close, if you dont then you are almost never close - we dont have anything that remotely looks like a franchise QB and havent had one for years and years - the one thing the Jets have completely failed to do is snag a legitimate top tier QB - we have just never sucked badly enough at the right times.
     
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    74 Well-Known Member

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    This thread is awful. Some of you guys are delusional.
     
  12. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    ^ This. The NFL is a QB centric league now more than ever. As long as the Jets are still putting a Band-Aid on a gaping wound at the QB position this team will never be a true SB contender.

    In regards to Jimmy Graham, the most dominant TE in football today. There's no way in hell the Saints let him walk. You can cross him off the wish list.
     
  13. JStokes

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    I agree, no way he's getting away. But we have to find one of those big tall fast pass catching TEs. I don't know where but we have to.

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  14. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    We're not close right now. Other than the defensive line we have no area of team pinned down well.

    Most of the FA's listed will either be unavailable due to tag, are injury prone or are over-rated and will be over-priced as a result. Signing a few of them would be a circa 2008 move but onto a much less talented base.

    Jarius Byrd is the only guy listed who will be available and would actually be a long-term upgrade over what the Jets have right now. Orakpo is the other guy you might look at, however he's the classic case of a prime-time player with 2 good years left assuming he plays healthy and then a slow decline.
     
  15. ScotsJet

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    I sure hope the front office puts less weight on wishful thinking than the OP does.
     
  16. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    So I guess what you are saying is that "Hope isn't a strategy" :grin:

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  17. JStokes

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    Kind of like a Bart Scott. I still think of Orapko as that dynamic playmaker from years ago, but he's not, he'll probably follow the trajectory of Scott.

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  18. joe

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    We've a ways to go.

    Even Miley Cirus doesn't have as many holes that need to be filled.
     
  19. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    Lol, well done.

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  20. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Win in the Free Agency, lose in the regular season.

    If we could get Jimmy and just Jimmy that would be great.

    I don't want to get into a bidding war with Ben Tate, the Browns will break the bank for him.

    Byrd would be a good start, but we need to continue to build through the draft. In the FA, find some mid-tier talent with high upside that won't break the bank.
     

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