AND I COULDN'T BE MORE THRILLED :grin: And I completely agree with his assessment of his skills/talent ... it ain't braggin if its true IMO he's the best player in the draft not named Reggie Bush, and even that's a close call ========= NY POST TE DAVIS SAYS HE'LL BE A JET By MARK CANNIZZARO Vernon Davis has a gut feeling, and it's one that either will excite Jets fans or horrify them as Saturday's NFL Draft approaches. "I think I'm going to the Jets," the Maryland tight end told The Post yesterday. "If I'd say anything, I'd say the Jets will draft me. I'm pretty sure, if nothing crazy happens, it'll be the Jets." Davis is a 6-31/4, 254-pound physical freak of nature who runs faster than 4.4 seconds in the 40-yard dash and can leap over the Empire State Building without a running start. He's thought of as a can't-miss prospect, a dynamic player who can change the game for any offense. Think the moribund, pop-gun Jets' offense, devoid of a single explosive player, can use someone like Davis? Davis does. "If [the Jets] know what's right for them, they'll take me, a guy that can make plays," he said at a lunchtime interview in Manhattan set up by representatives from EAS, the supplement drink he'll endorse as a pro. "I don't look at myself as a tight end; I look at myself more as a playmaker. "I feel I can come in and be one of the best tight ends in the league. It seems like every goal I set for myself I tend to reach it. My philosophy is, somebody might beat me, but they're going to have to bleed to do it." Asked if he believes he can come in and be an immediate impact player, Davis said, "Oh, I know I can, right away." Told of the black hole the tight end position has been over the years for the Jets, who since 1992 have used seven draft picks on tight ends, three of them in the first round (Johnny Mitchell, Kyle Brady and Anthony Becht, where have you gone?), Davis was undaunted. Told that sports-radio callers already are ranting against the Jets taking another tight end in the first round, Davis said, "My answer to that is - and I'm not trying to knock anyone - but who do they have now?" The answer would be Chris Baker (eight starts in 52 games, 52 career catches) and journeyman Doug Jolley (118 catches in four seasons and a non-factor as a blocker). Davis was asked if he would embrace some New York competition with Giants brash TE Jeremy Shockey. Davis' eyes lit up. "Oh, yeah, he'll definitely have some competition here," he said. "Oh, yeah." Davis said he's well aware of Shockey's game and those of the other top tight ends in the NFL. "I can make people miss and run them over, too," Davis said. "I'm explosive. With that, you've got a Jeremy Shockey and Antonio Gates mixed in one." Davis said he visited the Jets at Weeb Ewbank Hall three weeks ago, spending time with owner Woody Johnson and head coach Eric Mangini. Davis, asked what his lasting impression was, said, "I could tell by the way they were talking, the way we bonded, that they liked me. It just seemed like it was good." Davis said he'll wait for his name to be announced in the green room at Radio City on Saturday. Told by The Post that we'd be at the Jets' complex for the draft on Saturday, Davis smiled and said, "Well, I'll see you at the complex on Saturday then." http://www.nypost.com/sports/jets/67655.htm
ahem have you heard of another man, hes quite good, his name is Mario Williams. Mario is better than Vernon
I think this may have been posted already. Anyways, if we did indeed draft Davis, I would be very excited about the prospect of having such a dangerous weapon on offense, but I think our FO would absolutely get slaughtered by the media and some fans for the selection. There would be tremendous pressure on him to succeed.
i'm all for it, if that's the call. we need a guy with swagger who can back it up on the field. the Jet offense desperately needs an infusion of life, hope and athleticism. I would try to trade Justin Mc-Can't-CatchorRun for a 12th round pick if I were mangini....wait there are only 7 rounds, never mind. maybe we could get a Nerf football for him
I like him, didn't think he had this banter in him, i like his confidence, and he will be a playmaker, mario williams is my choice, but if he is gone then i wouldn't mind getting a playmaker in davis. This draft, best defensive player mario williams, best offensive playmaker vernon davis. QB's ummm let's say we wait for next year.
We need some attitude on offense so that would be a positive. But I will lose my damn mind if we draft him at four. I will actually flip out. Davis or Cutler at four and I will turn off the draft.
I posted this in another thread but people love making multiple ones about the same subject so here it goes.... This is my case for drafting D'Brick (If Mario is not available) and passing on Davis So, say we draft Davis at #4. Pick a few OL in the draft, but none of them are really anything special. Our season starts and Pennington/Ramsey are having trouble getting the ball off and Curtis Martin is having another year like last year, battling to gain just a few yards. Oh, but wait, we have Vernon Davis streaking down the field. Ahh, but wait, our QB is lying on the ground. So, what do we do to compensate for this lack time to pass. We bring our TE in to block. Oh man, now isn't this funny. Our number 4 TE is blocking. Ahh, if we had just gotten D'Brick.
I guess you dont realize that the 49ers are panting like dogs in heat to get this guy at 6 right? There is NO other place we could get him.
"Well, I'll see you at the complex on Saturday then." This is a very bold statement by Vernon. There are a couple of scenarios where I doubt we would take him. (If leinart or mario are there) Players very rarely say who they think will take them. I don't know if he is just saying that because he wants more money or because he really feels that way. The draft is approaching so I guess we will find out soon enough if his gut instinct was right.
You do realize what you just said? If Curtis stinks, McCariens plays like last year and our TE continue to be none factors in the passing game, what difference would it make if the QB is protected or not? If we can't run and our WR and TE don't pose a real threat the QB is going down or throwing a pick regardless of how good the OL is. We stunk last year on O not just because our OL stunk, which it did, but our RB, QB, TE and WR stink and don't pose any real threat that a D needs to respect. Why not go to a two TE set with 2 WR and put Davis in the slot on a nickel back or out wide or out of one of the TE spots. Having a player who can make a play takes a tremendous amount of pressure off the QB. When you don't have a playmaker and the running back doesn't pose a threat it really won't matter how much time we give the QB. By the way the TE is part of the OL and Vernon Davis besides being the best reciever in this draft will be part of the OL.
I will admit, it would be awesome to have a offensive player who could line up basically anywhere on the field. Having said that, I have no problem taking him, I just dont think he will be our pick.
This is great work by Vernon, whatever way you look at it: he's given us a great little smokescreen a couple of days outside the draft, and several clubs below us who are aiming to get him might be willing to throw us some fantastic compensation to get him. Whether or not he's drafted by us on Saturday, he's an honourary Jet already.
I had the 49ers with an invisible incumbent TE and posted based on that. Then I went looking for his season last year and could not find him at all. Which just goes to show that posting 2 minutes after waking up from 4 and a half hours of sleep is a bad idea... Edit: I figured it out. The 49ers did have an incumbent TE in 2004 who had 82 catches. Of course in my sleep befuddled state my brain left out the fact that he had been seriously injured for 2 of the last 3 seasons. So Davis might well be the target for the 49ers at 6.
Not saying this will make a big difference, but Mangini and Al Groh are former colleagues and Groh coaches in the ACC, so if the Jets are considering Davis it would stand to reason Mangini {who obviously covers all of his bases} would ask Groh for his impressions having coached against the duke Well if he did ask for Groh's assessment, this is likely what he heard, cause this is actually Groh commenting on Duke Davis last season "He's one of those unique players. It's not only that you don't see one of those players with his abilities week to week, you can go season to season and not see one like Vernon Davis, with his combination of size, speed and ball skills. He's a tremendous weapon for that team {Maryland}. It's apparent that the Quarterback has Great confidence in Getting him the ball, and for Good reason. And he is, I think ... one of the things that makes him very unique at his position is his run after the catch ability. There are a lot of really really Good Tight Ends who are Good receivers, but they don't necessarily look like wide receivers after they catch the ball. He's Got tremendous ability to do that." Those are at least some of the things Mangini would hear if he solicited the opinion of his former colleague who coached agaisnt Duke Davis in the ACC
I would love for the Jets to get him.... If Mario is picked by the Saints and I think he will then I think we are definitely picking Vernon Davis... My reason the Saints will pick Mario is because I believe they might want to try to mimick the defense of the Panthers.... Saints Ends are good, but they have never been a problem for Vick. A player like Mario, causes more problems for teams like the Falcons. The Panthers created their defense just to stop Vick. Man to Man Coverage on the outside. Speedy linebackers and Speedy Defensive Linemen. That might be the direction the Saints might go. This draft is full of Offensive Linemen and some might have been drafted higher (Winson Justice, Eric Winston) if not for off the field issues and injuries.
#4 on Vernon Davis, which is a small reach, is OK in my book. MUCH MUCH better for THIS FOOTBALL TEAM than Cutler or Williams. (Boys, Williams may be a top talent, but he doesn't fit well in the 3-4. Robertson would be a better DE in the 3-4 than him. Now in the 4-3, Williams is going to be a stud)
The difference between Williams and Robertson is that Williams is unknown. Robertson is a bust. Saying that he'll be a better 3-4 end is ridiculous. The only thing that Robertson will be better at is being injured and eating at mcdonald's.
