first of all the pick of schlegel was recommended by brian cox the l.b. coach.remember him.he was one tough dude and played well for the jets and the dolphins before them.schlegel is one tough dude and fits the 3-4 defense to a tee.he will play inside and excells against the run.so keep the faith and lets not pre-judge him.
I like that Schelegal pick. Hes a tough hard nosed player who gets the job done he will start next to Vilma in the 3-4.
I don't think he will be a backup, I think with some Mangini magic this kid could be great. Tangini saw something in him that made them choose him, and if they were right then we got ourselves a starter.
Who cares if Shlegal is any good or Smith for that matter. It does not even matter if they become HoF's. The point many people make is why waste a 3rd round pick on him. If we really wanted them take them in the 6th and 7th rounds.
the point is value i hope he is good/great but they probably could have gotten him later and taken i higher upside guy
well thats where you think they couldve been taken based on the media....fact is where the media thinks people will go has no fact to where people are going to go/are going i mean look at all the you know, all the insider draft sites, and mainstream people like kiper...and then look at where guys were actually going in this draft
he is pretty much a tackling machine between the tackles, i have no problem with a tackling machine at all. hell vilma can fly all over the field and this guy can help sure up the middle (something vilma has some trouble with)
I don't like that we passed on Gocong, who could've started and pass rushed from OLB for us. We already have two MLBs, Vilma and Kassel, we needed an OLB because Hobson's to slow for a 3-4. We really don't have ANYONE to rush the passer now, unless Ellis returns to his old form. Gocong, who had like 41 sacks in 23 games in college, could've replaced some of that and filled a bigger need.
how do you know that he would have been taken later.ohio state linebackers are a hot commodity.I am sure that other teams had him rated in the third round.
gocong sounds like a bryan thomas...oh yea, btw, we have bryan thomas as a pass rusher in the olb position in the 3-4...maybe thats their thinking
No it doesn't. Many of us here are not talking about the end result but rather the process. Using smart logical and good use of our draft picks. Drafting is often a lot of luck and out of anyones control. But one can control how they use their picks. If they use them appropiately. I can forgive bad luck. I can forgive smart picks that don't pan out. But I don't forgive or praise wasting draft picks. Taking 3 players 1-3 rounds earlier is not a smart use of draft picks. Its a waste no matter how well the picks turn out. Yes maybe the Jets new FO office is all knowing and knows something about these players that no one else knows. But most likley they panicked and took these players way to early and instead are just showing us the consequences of their age and lack of expereince.
Again what draft board are you basing this on - this is insane. How do you know that other teams didn't have these guys rated? Why would Mangini and Mr T waste their time interviewing 450 guys and testing their football prowess when they can go to Kiper and co. including you?
And that's all nice to talk about for today and tomorrow, but in the end it means nothing. In the end, the question is how many good players we get in the draft. 2 years from now, if they both turn out to be good players, no one will care that we reached for them. Just like if we took 2 bigger names, we might get great grades for a few days, but if they don't turn out, no one is going to care that we got good value. Did we take them to early? I don't know, it looks like we might have, but you never know. Once you get into the middle rounds, teams are reaching all the time. It's hard to project where they are going to go. I'm not going to get to hung up on value though. We all will have opinions on the draft, but in the end any thoughts we have or grades we give now don't mean anything, so I'm not going to worry about them too much.
Do you see anyone rating these players even close to 3rd round talent. I would understand if if a few boards or information sites have them rated as gross reaches. I would also understand if we took 1 reach but to take 3 players far beyond their rated value is a pattern and gives one the appearance that the FO has panicked and is in way over their heads.
