Preface: I don't know what the title of this thread be so I opened this thread as "Titleless Thread". Help me find a title after you read. As Jets fan, I am an eternal optimist. When we hired Bowles and drafted Darnold I felt like we turned the corner and good years would be ahead of us. When we hired Saleh and drafted Zach, same feeling came over to me. When we acquired Rodgers, I was stupid enough to buy into the hype and started budgeting my finances for a Jets superbowl(Yes I am stupid). All fo these optimism turned to be bust. This time, we still have a new Head Coach in Glenn and we are starting with an experienced QB in Fields. I am not feeling very optimistic to be honest. Is it possible this time, Glenn and Fields will overt deliver the expectations? I don't know. I hope it happens but I can't get myself hyped up. How do you guys feel?
That's a great title for the thread. I feel you. This organization has never been more than one or two levels above shit for so long that it's kind of unfathomable that they be any more than they are. Literally, outside Bill Parcells and 2 years under Ryan, this team has done exactly Jack and his good buddy Shit. As far as I'm concerned, I don't even count the SB. 1969 was so long ago that it doesn't even register. It's kind of a joke. Anyone who introduces their kid to this team borders on child abuse. It's not even the perennial losing that gets me. It's the all encompassing feeling that, no matter what is done, the team will ultimately fail. I find it hilarious that teams, like the Squeelers, are busy being vilified by their fans for their head coach being .500 or above his entire tenure as a H.C. Fuck me...I'd damn near give my left testicle for a team that performed at .500 or better decade in and out. It's just a different level of shit. It's like the Jets are the Temple Owls of the NFL. Temple has been to NINE bowl games since 1934. Pure shit. Sometimes I'm CERTAIN I should have my head thoroughly examined for continuing to support the team. I'm getting close, though. I've never subscribed to the whole "loyalty" bullshit that others seem to like to throw in your face. I root for the team because I enjoy football and that's the way the cookie crumbled, decades ago, however times change and if this stain of an organization can't seem to get their shit together then I'm done. I love football too much to watch a perennial doormat. Hell, if fucking organizations, like Detroit, can finally put together a dominant football team then there is zero/nada/zip one excuse for the NY Jets.
There are good reasons not to be optimistic. We keep making the same decisions that became big mistakes in years past. In no particular order ... 1. Our QB situation is worse, not better, 2. We hired a first year head coach, 3. We hired a first year GM, 4. We have the worst owner in the NFL, 5. We had 5 wins last year and did not improve in free agency, 6. There do not appear to be any blue chip QB's in the draft this year and none would be available to us if there were, and 7. The last coach who accomplished anything of note with this team was begging to be re-hired and we flipped him the bird. But we haven't reached rock-bottom yet. Rock bottom will be next year when we have the #1 pick in the draft and Arch Manning refuses to play for us.
I wasn't optimistic with Bowles or Saleh. I am beyond excited for this regime. It feels so much different and made up of what good teams ACTUALLY do. Maybe you felt good about it because you got used to shitty decisions by this team? Not sure, but It feels beyond different to me. It really is strange that people feel this way to me, you aren't the only one I've seen talk like this. I don't get it. EDIT: After reading through the comments, I'm actually baffled. Unreal.
The only reason to be even slightly optimistic is that the Jets almost have to exceed the sub-basement level expectations I have for them this season.
Why do you feel so optimistic though? What is it about us hiring a rookie defensive HC and a first time GM YET AGAIN that gives you hope? We’ve all seen this movie time and time again…you could make an argument that both Bowles’ and Saleh’s track records were at least as good as, if not better than, Glenn’s. They both sucked. I like Glenn. I loved him as our CB1. I like that he’s a Parcells guy, and Parcells’ backing actually means something to me. However, until we see something on the field that shows us different, I can’t get excited. And I’m always the glass half full guy. I am not a darksider by any means, but man when Woody did the same exact thing that we’ve been doing, I just couldn’t get behind it. Not again. I hope you’re right and I’m wrong, but I just don’t see anything being different. Sure, he had some nice words, but so did Saleh. All Gas No Brake! Great slogan. Great energy. In the end he turned out to be what he is…a good DC but not yet ready to be a good HC. Bowles I never got behind. Herm I never got behind. I didn’t think either guy was a very good HC. So sure, I hope Glenn does well. But what is it that gets you excited other than just hope?
Well said! I know this will shock a lot of you, however, I'm a VERY optimistic person. In fact, I'm one of those sick asses that does the can do crap. I know I know...who knew!?! When it comes to this team, and the political climate (we'll leave that alone), this team has taken a perennial sun shiner to the dark side. I'm strictly a "believe it when I see it." Until then, I'll continue to believe that anything this team does will turn to shit. Not sure why that is so hard to understand considering the ENTIRE history. I guess you have had to LIVE this for decades to understand.
