The Worst Cornerbacks List (J. Miller included) & Other Jet Tidbits

Biggest difference is i nthe Rushing TD's....and can be acocunted for by LT vs. CM.

Doesn't look good for us next yr. as far as rushing TD's go

Thanks for the info sameway

 

Young CB's always struggle early, i'm not worried about Miller. he will get more reps this year and probably start most games

 

Hopefully the coaches will let him be more aggressive too. I hate a conservative defense.

 

Miller is awful. I said it before last years draft and he has proven me right. He showed no instincts in college, was a poor tackler and many draft sites (The Sporting News) wrote that he may be uncoachable. He didn't even make all conference first or second team as a DB. He is the Bradway 'athlete' with all the triangle numbers (speed, strength, size) in a shutdown CB. ..... typical Bradway falling in love with an athlete and ignoring actual production in games like at Clemson where he was routinely burned by SEC WR's of modest credentials.. but boy can he give a hit.

The Jets official stats credited him with two pass defenses and 0 INT's.

In Two Minute Warning's list of defensive playmakers last season, he came out as the absolute worst defensive playmaker in the NFL.

http://www.twominutewarning.com/d05rtg.htm

 

Mangini's defense last year with the Patriots was more conservative than Rush Limbaugh. Here's a gameday report after the Chiefs thumping of the Patriots last December with the authors criticism of Eric Mangini. The Pats lost 26-16.


http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/archives/gameday/midweek_thoughts.php

But for all those things, its also the coaching. Eric Mangini simply has not done a good job this year. There is no other way to spin it. I doubt he feels he has. He can't. The results are simply not there where anyone could be satisfied. Yes he has somewhat been a victim of the injuries and every other thing that has gone wrong this year, but he hasn't found a way to figure it out or even to show much improvement or stability as the season has gone on.

One problem is, I believe, Mangini has been exceedingly conservative with his defense this year. I find it hard to criticize this because I have totally bought into the philosophy the Patriots have had in the past of conservative defense, stopping the run, not selling out to rush the passer and patience while waiting for the opponents mistakes. They've also picked and choosed exceedingly well in past years their times to be aggressive, and I believe there is a time for that.

But this year, they have taken conservative defense to a new level, at least lately over the last few months. Early in the season I criticized Mangini in this blog that he was blitzing too much and at the wrong times. Now my complaints have shifted to the polar opposite. They do nothing and haven't in weeks. They rarely blitz. They rarely challenge receivers. They rarely seem to give different looks. They do nothing. They come out and give one look and play it the entire game no matter how bad things start going. The few times they have blitzed in recent weeks the results have seemed better than the vast majority of time when they weren't.

Perhaps Mangini is just frustrated. He is thinking, geez, early in the season I was blitzing a lot and trying different things and we were giving up long play after long play so I'm not gonna do it. To some degree, I can sympathize with that thinking, especially when they did get hit with a few injuries as the season went along. And although I think some of the problem was WHEN Mangini chose to blitz early on, nevertheless, I can see why he may be a bit gun shy.

But the problem I have with that is at some point in some of these games you got to try to do something. You can't just sit there all day long and let Peyton Manning and Trent Green pick you apart and still be gun shy. They both score on the first drive. They go up 10-0 or 13-3 or 16-3 or 19-3 or by the time it gets to 26-3 you have to be thinking, hmmmm, maybe I won't be able to just sit there in a soft base zone all day and get away with it. Or at least you'd think so. But the change up to something, anything, has seemed to come too slow in a lot of these games.

At some point you'd think Mangini would see them convert third down after third down in game after game and say, okay, scrap that idea, lets do something. But it never comes until the fourth quarter with six minutes left in the game down two scores like against Kansas City. And its too late by then. If they don't start getting a little more bold on defense and taking the fight a bit more to the opponents, I don't care if its Peyton Manning or not, its going to be too late for this entire season as well, if its not already. You can't play the entire season scared. Its not working anyways.

 

How was Herm's gameplan vs. KC?

 

If you don't notice Miller's obvious athleticism and upside. And truly believe that he is awful..you are far more foolish than i thought.

Miller has speed, agility, and is very physical. He made plenty of big plays in college which demonstrates that he DOES have instincts. There is a reason scouts projected him as a 1st rounder last year, and those same scouts considered him a steal when we got him in the 2nd round.

The uncoachable stuff didnt start until the party incident a week before the draft. Thus far in his career, that has far from been the case.

He made alot of progress this past year and really didnt give up any big plays. That's all you can ask from a CB in his rookie year. The fact that he did this while having to start on the fly..makes it even more impressive. He will be a top CB for us in given time.

 

The fantasy mag has Jets Defense dead last as well... i almost choked. You cant go by that shit.

 

Bought the fantasy guide that KFFL backs (can't remember the name left it at work). They listed for IDP leagues the best players for LB (Vilma #2 overall) & for DB's (Coleman #2 & Rhodes #12) out of the whole league. Have to remember to bring the damn thing home so I can look up where everyone else is. Believe they had Ellis like #32 in the D-Line list.

 

As we've said many times, no list that has James Reed ranked ahead of John Abraham, Mike Vrabel, Dwight Freeney, Mike Rucker, Marcus Stroud, and Bert Berry can be taken seriously.

 

that website has ZERO credibility....just look at the list for yourself.....it's pretty retarded

And exactly how many games did you watch Justin Miller play in college? 2? 3? I really don't see how you can come to the conclusion that he was awful in college unless you're an idiot.....but we already knew that.....

 

Lito Sheppard is a Pro Bowl cornerback. The rest of those guys are either young or crappy.

Miller wasn't a full time starter, and so the numbers are based on a rather small sample. I thought he looked particularly good playing against Steve Smith when we played Carolina.

-X-

 

He started eight games last year.... 2 passes defended and 0 INT's.

 

Under Herm Edwards.....:wink:

 

"They've also picked and choosed exceedingly well"

Wow, I wish I could get paid to be an illiterate writer

 

I thought Herm Edwards was God and the magic man with the secondary? What happened?

 

I'll try to put a Lia-like spin on it...

If a player succeeded, it was because of Herm. If a player failed, it was that player's fault.

Sound retarded enough? It is, but that's the way Lia rationalizes. Anything that happened that was good, was Herm's doing. Anything that happened that was bad, was someone elses' fault, but not Herm's.

 

Tell me this: how much can a fantasy football magazine teach you that you don't already know? Are they designed to teach you strategy for who to play against what teams, etc. or do they try to tell you who to draft?

To me it just doesn't make much sense. Nobody can tell you, no matter how much of a "preofessional" they are, if a player is going to have a big season. They also don;t know about predicting injuries.

Personally, I know who the good WRs are and what teams pass alot and what QBs are they best, so what do I need a magazine for? I just don;t get it. If you know football you know the players and should be able to draft a fantasy team accordingly.

 

Everybody's got an opionion and Most people in the US are whores for media