The sub-1.50 10 yd split

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  1. Vader

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    The 10 yd split is more valuable in many cases than a 40 time. It measures pure straight line acceleration, imitating game action for a running back, who takes the hand off and tries to explode for yardage past scrimmage, through a crease or around end. If a running back is off the ball 5-8 yards, 10 yards is a good measure. A full 40 yds covered in the yd dash is almost totally irrelevant and more accurately measures high-end top-speed stamina over a series of 10-yd splits. But to just assure positive yardage, the RB has to get to the line of scrimmage first, or beat the D around the end.

    Not even 10 players have hit sub 1.5 for as long as it has been measured.

    Watching Trenton Cannon (1.49 second 10-yd split) run at the pro level (in a zone scheme) shows a rare skillset - short-area explosion from go and pure acceleration to the line.

    He is more explosive and covers more ground vs other players over the first 10 yds and 1.5 seconds of a play, and that alone barring injury will make him a game-in game-out weapon like we had with Leon Washington, but faster. If he can learn to break an initial tackle, he's going to be taking them to the house.
     
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    forevercursed Well-Known Member

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    Love this insight. Thanks. First time I've heard of something like this. Cool that Cannon is one of a small amount that have hit sub 1.5.
     
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    How do they measure 10yd split? Is it calculated based on their 40 yd dash or do they run them separately?
     
  4. Vader

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    during the 40. the first 10.
     
  5. Section 336

    Section 336 Well-Known Member

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    It takes more than speed or acceleration to be a top flight NFL running back.

    I hope I am wrong and you are rmaybe are right, but I for one was not impressed by him by any stretch.
    And I am talking just his running and not taking in to account the horrific looking trying to catch a punt and the clueless where the ball was on the pass.
     
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    Boys got speed and is slippery but he needs to be out there catching punts after practice.... has to show something on special teams but I came away impressed in his running. Dominated DII but this is the NFL he needs to be a swiss army knife and that means fielding punts.
     
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  7. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    40 yard dash times, top end speed and quickness and/or top notch acceleration doesn't make a truly great NFL RB for me (although does create for an electric/exciting scatback).

    But patience behind his blocker's, having elite field vision, overall physicality as a runner, an ability to catch out of the backfield, being a 3 down back due to pass protection ability, strength to carry the football with ball security and overall durability have always been signs of a truly great NFL RB for me.

    Show me an NFL RB who has patience behind the L.O.S, field vision, a 3 down back with both pass protection and catching out of the backfield ability, physical at the point of attack along with durability and ball security and I'll show you a future All-Pro RB (which is why I love everything about Le'Veon Bell; he's rare).

    Now combine speed & quickness (bonus) to those RB characteristics and you've got yourself a future H.O.F back.

    I think Saquon Barkley has got it all. If healthy a future H.O.F RB.
     
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    10 yard and 20 yard splits are more important than 40 time. Football is a game of short sprints for the most part. Good post bringing attention to this. Also, I didn't realize Cannon was that fast, hopefully we can successfully incorporate him into the pass game and get him in some open space.
     
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    High school coach used to lose his mind when our backs would not hit the play called gap full speed

    But I felt bad for the backs, they were setting up the blocks sometimes and the online sucked too....


    He would roll over in his grave watching leveon bell- one of best I’ve seen at lining up the blocks
     
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    Yep. Bates has to get creative with this kid.
     
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    The return of Enunwa should help the zone blocking as well, which should give a quick & shifty dude like Cannon even more creases to explode through. I really love the thought of having Enunwa back on the field this year.
     
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    I don’t see this kid playing much more than kick off returns.
    KO and punt returns are quite different, maybe let him keep practicing so he could be availble in the once in a while circumstance where the other team is deep in their end and we need a quick homerun.

    He will see less than 100 carries and most likely less than 50 barring major injuries.
     
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    RA can get away with being lighter because of the position he plays. TC might want to consider adding muscle if he's gonna be a RB. I'm not real sure why they kept banging him up the middle. Didn't make sense to me at all..We won't even go into PR's..That was a disaster.
     
  14. Vader

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    so true. if a back like cannon can shorten the play and get the action to the defense super quick and then make one guy miss, with killer blocks in the secondary, that’s a like dream scenario with daiquiris in aruba
     
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    Agree
    But it would be mice if he could channel some Leon Washington eventually
     
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    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    @Vader, where did you find his 10-yard split time?
     
  17. Vader

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    hey its under analysis in the NFL website for prospects. cant post links here bc not enough threads created etc. but if you google trenton cannon 10 yard split you will find it
     
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  18. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    You've been a member of TGG since 2015? And only have 11 posts? Wow. You must really love this Trenton Cannon kid. You should post more often you're a good writer I can see.

    Crazy how you mentioned that not even 10 players have (ever) hit sub 1.5 for as long as it's been measured.

    And Trenton Cannon ran it at 1.49? Incredible.

    I'm now currius to see who the other All-Time sub 1.5 runners were?

    But speaking of Leon Washington me being an FSU fan I'd say that Trenton Cannon is built like and runs more like #28 Warrick Dunn when in comparison to Leon.

    Leon W: 5'8 / 203 lbs .
    Cannon: 5'11 / 185 lbs.
    Warrick: 5'9 / 187 lbs.

    Dunn I believe ran a 4.28 40, Cannon a 4.40 flat and Leon I believe ran a 4.42.

    I wonder what times both Warrick Dunn & Leon ran during their 10 yd splits?
     

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