I will preface this by saying ive been down on bowles since mid last season, once seeing him for 8 or 9 games. and I was cautiously optomistic on Mac. so this isnt to absolve any of those two or say i back them 100%. The point is, the issue is ownership. woody has no idea what direction he wants to go in, and doesnt have the discipline to do things the right way. He also overreacts to the fans emotions and doesnt have much of a backbone.... Tannenbaum went all in with this team with cap space, trading draft picks, bringing in vets, and pushing cap hits back. Once that era bottomed out. We brought in Idzik. Idzik had a coach forced on him (rex). Idzik said this team needed to be torn down and rebuilt, and woody agreed to that, even said in a press conference its a process and it might get bad before it gets worse.... he signed off on the 3 year process before things turned around. Idzik dealt revis, made some cuts, set things up so that we would go from cap hell to a huge cap surplus, and got us back to making draft picks and not trading then all. that is not to say idzik was a good GM... since he failed when it came to player evaluation. his FA signings were poor, his draft picks were awful. he deserved to go for those reasons.... but thats not why he was fired. he was fired because the fans got pissed we were losing and woody johnson caved 1.5 years into a 3 year rebuild. fans were pissed when idzik didnt spend big money on corners when he was looking to roll money over 1 more year and bottom out for higher picks.... The result was that Mac walked into 55 million dollars in cap room and the #6 pick. all of the assets Idzik worked to get but never got to use. again, im not an idzik guy, have no confidence in him to identify talent... but he did get the short end of the stick. if your going to tell someone they have 2-3 years to clean up a mess, at least let them spend the money and picks they worked to clear out and get. Anyhow, 1.5 years into a 3 year rebuild, woody changed the message. no more rebuild, this is win now. Mac spends nearly half that money on vets, and trades for more vets. marshall and forte for example. again, im not anti mac. i think he is a much better talent evaluator. i think we still need to see how 2 or 3 of his drafts pan our before truly evaluating him... which was always my opinion. the theme here is ownership. woody shifted gears and mac was throwing money at vets to turn a rebuilding team into a winner over night. the result is a team not good enough to contend that also has a small window before it has to rebuild again due to its best players being older. Woody needs to go, or he needs to stop being involved and hire a president to oversee things, some above the GM to make the power moves woody should not be involved in. then we wouldnt be in this cluster fuck where we have to switch gears between rebuilding and going all in every 2 years. My hope is mac gets a long leash... he is the talent evaluator we hope he is. were bad enough to get him a top pick this next draft, and he rebuild this team through some strongs drafting.
"The owner’s message to Jets fans: “Be patient and have trust we’re doing the right thing for your team.” -woody johnson 1.5 years later he fires the head coach and gm.
Am I misremembering or did Woody say he wasn't really didn't know enough about football to be hands on and was going to leave it up to the football guys when he originally bought the team?
Things don't look so hot right now, but the normal Woody would hit the panic button and do something drastic. Woody has to give Bowles and Mac an off-season / season to fix what has transpired. Now is not the time to throw everything away. It's time to start evaluating young players. That means Petty, Pryor, Maudlin, and others.
Yeah get rid of the owner, he only owns the team. You'd be better off rooting for another team. I've been following the British Premier League this year and I'm not making any allegiances yet, simply because I don't want to root for another Jets.
If I'm Woody I'm testing the waters right now on Cowher, Gruden, Harbaugh. If they have no interest which is most likely then give Mac full power to hire his own coach and see what happens. One thing for certain is Bowles needs to go, the sooner the better. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
We all know the owner is clueless about football decisions,,,,,that said the honeymoon for the GM is over and the coach "might "be as clueless as the owner time will tell
STOP WITH GRUDEN AND CO WHERE FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST. Not only are they fossils who are never coaching in the NFL again, neither is a good fit for us. Please. Stop. Woody is clueless... but it's not his fault the players suck that Mac signed and picked etc. Woody is sort of the owner you want. He stays out of it and letsee the football people work and gives whatever $ we need.
That is it in a nutshell, and I agree with your assessment of Idzik, if he had just a small amount of talent evaluation ability the jets would have gotten it right. In regards too what we have now, I think Mac is fine, the CS needs some pruning, and it's time to see Petty under center and I don't mean in the shotgun formation, he needs a more balanced offensive scheme.
Wait, this is Woody's fault now? He hired 2 qualified guys to hire him a GM and HC. He doesn't meddle in the teams player decisions. How is this his fault?
First, I'm not a big fan of Woody Johnson, especially of his politics, but he's the owner of the team, so he isn't going anywhere and we better accept that. Nevertheless, two seasons ago he did the right thing by consulting respected football people to hire the next GM and coach. You would think with all that deliberation and recommendation, Woody would have hired people who recognize what 90% of us know: you can't win in this league without strong play at the QB position. Yet the new brain trust did nothing to upgrade the position coming after a disastrous year in which the 2nd year QB all but melted down. This season, again no upgrade to the position, but insisting on going with a backup QB that despite a winning season last year, had serious flaws. Whatever the fate of Maccagnan and Bowles, they have no one to blame for this season's debacle but themselves.
If this was a few years ago I would hurl a lot of blame at Woody but I can't. Instead of going through that stupid coach search firm, Woody actually consulted long standing NFL people (Casserly and Wolf) to see who he should get to run his franchise. This in and of itself is a stark departure from what he used to do. He wants a winning product, has poured millions of dollars into making the jets training facility one of the best in the league. I'm really unsure as to what else he can do at this point? Do we want him meddling in the affairs of how the team is run? what's wrong with wanting to be competitive whilst also rebuilding? Woody cannot afford to do what other small market teams do. The pressure in New York is way above and beyond the pressure of other markets, people cannot accept failure here and have 0 patience. Imagine he got rid of Idzik and Rex with a mandate of tanking for 2 seasons so that we could come out of the ashes with a ton of young talent? It would be a failure... What Macc has done has been to walk the fine line of being competitive whilst also rebuilding... its a hard line to walk but in this market, there is no other alternative. Blame Bowles, and Macc for re-signing Fitz, not sure Woody deserves much at this point.
He fund raised & donated to Trump...I'll leave that there. Now, I will say this, I have bashed Woody on here 110x at least. Can't stand the guy. But the JETS Stadium experience is at least better than it was before him. That said,yes..he should stay out of Football operations... and ftr, he's still a twat.
Why go all in for Revis and Wilkerson and not go all in to trade for the #1 or #2 pick? That's what I want to know. It was clear in the offseason that the Jets were just a QB short of being really good. FWIW I was OK with Fitzpatrick based on his last season - my mistake. But they don't pay me to run the franchise.
