I've been looking at some recent superbowl teams trying to mimic if you will what they are doing. Sure some teams have great WR's but the majority of SB teams in the past decade have been around average at the position. In my opinion behind FB it's the weakest position on the offense. If the QB can get it there they should just need to catch it. So I've realized now, most great teams have very nice DL, LB, and/or, CB depth. They've got a rotating line, depth at LB, and CB's that come in and out depending on the play of choice. It's no secret we don't have much DL, or LB depth, and CB depth can be questioned. So although after the Coles release I was cravin for a WR... I'm starting to believe at the draft we should still continue to go defense. So here's what I'm thinking... (BTW we DO have a 2nd 4th) In no certain order in the draft this year (more-so BPA) I think we should use our first 5 selections on a random selection of those 3 positions and then maybe OL depth, or even a powerful back. Thoughts?
Kenny Britt will be the pick. Cotchery can't catch 200 balls this coming season, he is the only proven WR we have and we cannot just sit on our hands here.
:rofl::up: Well.. damn man put me on the spot! Ok, well honestly, I thought about it for a few hours. Now I changed my mind. Do we need a WR? Yes we do. However WR's hardly ever are drafted and then break out first year 1,000 yards. So why should we draft a WR? That being said, I'm not gunna be bitchin and moanin if we DO draft one. I just think we should go defense first. However the BPA theory keeps comin back to me. I know ONE thing for sure. If we have to debate what we should do in the first round, it means we don't have any glaring needs... so :beer:
I actually wouldn't mind Holt for the right price, but it seems like that won't happen. I'm not enough of an expert to know whether Nicks, Bey, Sanchez, Wells, or whomever are the better prospect. I am of the firm belief that the Jets need a franchise QB, and if they don't have one they should get one at the first possibility. I doubt Clemens is the answer, I can't say anything for sure about Ratliff, and even less about Ainge. But if the Jets don't love these guys and do love Sanchez, then they should take him if he's there for the taking. WR is really the same boat. The Jets have Cotchery who is a nice receiver, but I can't say for sure about Stucky or Clowney. So if they don't feel they need a QB and a receiver is there they like I think they have to go WR. HB is a little different. They have Jones who isn't bad, but isn't great, and he's getting older. Washington is great, and I'd love to see him get a lot more touches. I'm going to be in the monoirty, but I don't know why he can't be a feature back. He's short, but not small. If you don't like Washington and a guy like Wells falls to you, and you do love him and not the QB or WR, then you go HB. If you don't like any of the QBs, WRs, or HBs at 17, then you look defense, either DE, LB, or CB, depending on who you like or who's there. I doubt the Jets go CB, but I don't think you can have too many great players at that position (although the Eagles might argue that). In any case, that might be a bit long-winded, but that's my take at the moment. I think Ryan's been around long enough to know what he likes, and what it takes to be a good football player. So until he proves he's not worthy I'm going to trust his opinion on these potential picks.
I agree. I trust Ryan as well. Plus I agree Washington CAN be an every down back. Sure his average would fall some but he would still have it about 4.0 with a decent line. RB isn't a super important position imo. I could actually see us going CB tho. What if Lito gets hurt? (It's happened many times before.) Then we are back to square one with Lowery starting and our pass D being well below average. You can truely never have too many good CB's and with CB being deep this year I would be a little upset if we did not go CB in the first 3 rounds.
You're right that teams can win with average receivers but right now we don't even have two average or better receivers. Clowney and Stuckey are incredibly unproven and have given us no indication that they can handle being a #2. I think we need someone to compliment Cotchery. We'd be stupid to not pursue Torry Holt (and apparently we aren't going to).
Other then QB there is not a bigger need on this Jets team then WR. Signing Holt would be a good start and a band aid for the next year or two but the team still would need a major upgrade in talent at the position for next year and into the future.
No, washington can not be an every down back. Not on a run first team, he would never survive the season. He is too small, I love the guy but he can not be an every down back unless we want him constantly injured like westbrook for the eagles and he's smaller than westbrook.
signing/drafting a WR without a true QB to get him the ball is like selling out on a running back when your OL can't block anybody. like when we were talking about run dmc but decided our OL would make that a wasted pick. same thing with WR but in a different way. if we can't 'fix' both sides of the equation, then might as well ramp up the D some more and get a few OL back ups. then next year when favre comes out of retirement we can go after fitzgerald. see?
If we don't get another receiver, many things will happen: -Cotchery will be double covered -If they don't double cover Cotchery, you can bet money there will be blitzes coming from all over the field. Defenses will test our inexperienced QBs, and this is going to happen quickly. -There will be 8 men in the box MUCH of the time waiting for Jones. He's not a sideline-sideline guy, they know he's coming down field. -Washington will be spied on, which will eliminate much of the threat for screens One missing playmaker makes a huge difference. Look how bad the Giants sputtered after they lost Plaxico last year. I suppose the key comes down to how well Keller can do. Only bad thing with Keller, he's not a blocker. So I'm sure we are going to see him in more of an H-back role then a TE role (Chris Cooley type). If they play him strictly at TE, he's going to get jammed on passing downs. I think Holt is the answer for atleast the season. He's a good player, he's got character, he's got a repertoire with Ellard, and I think he'd be a good mentor for Stuckey/Clowney.
Wr is one of the the hardest position to make an immediate impact at. Even if we do bring in a hot prospect chances are his first year will be flashes rather then consistency.
i love how people always say, well it takes a WR 3 years to develop so dont draft one. how the fuck do WR's ever develop then? last time i checked not everyone in the league is named Marques Colston. and most productive WR's come from the first three rounds. just because theres usually 5-8 taken in the first three doesnt mean theyre all busts either. plus Jeremy Maclin and Hakeem Nicks are as pro ready prospects Ive seen since Larry Fitzgerald (not comparing them at all but as far as having the skill set required to translate from college to pro's Maclin/Nicks have it now, in my book) we do need a WR its as simple as this to me, but this is just my point of view so whatever. Scenario 1 1)Maclin/Nicks 2)and trade up for the likes of Jaron Gilbert/Ziggy Hood (neither one will prolly be there come pick 49) Scenario 2 1)Vontae Davis, Tyson Jackson, Maulauga 2)position ourselves to draft Kenny Britt Scenario 3 1)Hope Sanchez is at 17 and we hold him for ransom tot he likes of the Vikings,Bucs, and Bears. thered have to be at least ONE taker. In this scenario we could get any number of players we wouldve drafted at 17 plus more ammo to either bring more bodies to camp or trade up and get about 3 top 75 players. either way you guys get the point.
Where would we have a 2nd forth from? I just hope we get clowney out there, I know it?s a longshot, but I think this kid could turn into one heck of a Reciever and solve our WR Problems for the next 5+ years. And Stuckey looks like a nice Slot-WR for years to come (if he can stay healty). Mabe add one in the middle rounds 2-4 and we should be fine with a bunch of young hungry Recievers.
You can add the Lions if they dont get Stafford with the 1st pick they may try to wait & get a QB at 20.
That's looking more and more like a lock (that they pass on a qb). I think the Lion's brass is scared of taking a QB with #1 overall. Especially with next years crop of QBs. They actually may just skip QB altogether in round 1 and fill their many other needs. This should be an interesting draft!
Leon Washington - 5'8", 202 pounds Emmitt Smith - 5'9", 209 pounds I just don't see the huge difference. One guy can be one of the best running backs in the history of the game and the other can't even be an every down back.
