The media is taking shots at Mangini. In the NY Times yesterday, an article said that Mangini hasnt earned his right to do what he's doing in practices and with the players. These other beat writer like Hutchinson and Canzanarro or whatever are runnin their mouths. They are all co*ksuckers. pardon my french but they are. The only reason they are all negative towards coach mangini is because he is not throwing them bones like herm did. he is vague, he has control over his players comments, and he doesnt allow his assistants to speak. the media isnt getting anything but what we as fans get and its pissin them off. i love it. bitter writers who think a press pass is an all acess pass cant handle being shut out. keep it up mangini.f*ck em!:beer: :chargers: :bills_suck: :deadskins: :manning:
Yeah, its so stupid. Its the guys FIRST WEEK of training camp. He's trying to instill a different culture. I freakin love it. Like I said before, I have no problem with this clandestine approach. It beats the pyscobabble about riding on buses and catching chickens anytime.
Well, the one caveat to that is the less the journalists know, the less we the fans know. I'm all for Mangini keeping some things under wrap, but I'd like to know more about the QB situation. While its obvious Pennington is the starter, I'd like to see where the rest of the depth chart lines up and if Ramsey is ahead of Clemens. Also, more info on the running back situation would be good too. It'll obviously be running back by committee with no Curtis, but I'd at least like to know who's going to get the most carries out of the bunch. The secrecy (ie the alphabetical depth chart) is only good up to a certain point, and then it just crosses over into paranoia, and that adversely affects the fans who want to know how things are going.
They just dont like him because he is really quite about the team. Thats bad for the media becuase they cant get good stories. I do think Mangini is to hush hush on somethings though.
hes getting what he deserves in a way. Hes a rookie coach acting like he owns the media and doesnt have to say anything to them. Well, you can do that, but you cant expect the media to love him for it. This is just the beginning of the Mangini ripping, wait till we are 2-7 and he wont answer questions.
The only knock currently on Mangini that i have.Is the Curtis Martin issue if he knowingly knew the condition and did not draft a rb what was he thinkiing.
See, and maybe I'm different, but I don't really care what the depth chart looks like after two weeks of camp. This thing will play out the way it plays out. I don't see what a coach gains by telling news reports exactly what he thinks about one player over another. I've never bought into this "he's our guy and he's our starter" mentality. You have to earn your job every day and therefore, depth charts, especially this early in pre-season, are quite fluid things. They best guys will play. We'll see it in September.
the fact that he is the head coach inherently means he has earned the right to run his practices any way he wants. that's what you do when you are the head coach, do things your way, that is why you are hired. now, beat writers haven't earned the right to judge how professional football teams should be coached, because they are spectators, not coaches, and really don't have a single clue what it takes to win games in the NFL. they have opinions, which isn't the same thing as experience, though they want to believe it is.
You aren't really representing Mangini truthfully. He has been more than willing to answer the media's question's. He just does it in a way that provides no controversy. He gives answers that a very general but all point towards one thing - we are building a winning program. He isn't acting like he owns the media - the media just needs to get over their shell shock. They are used to Herm - who gave answers with way too many specifics. Our newer coach see's the value in playing his cards close.
Hutchinson was on Sirius Radio this morning around 9:30 and he said that all the beat reporters met with Mangini when he was hired on a one on one format. At the time Hutchinson said that he told Mangini that he would run the risk of losing fan support if the media turned on him as a result of his tight-lip approach. He really didn't get into Mangini's response. Although he did say that the approach is frustrating the media and there is a good chance that if the team performs lousy and loses a lot of early games, the media turning on him could lead a fan revolt and ultimately a player revolt. They said the players are followig Mangini based on his pedigree and that given the right circumstances they could easily turn on the coach based on his age and lack of experience.
hahaha I hate the NY media...This is great!!! It'll be even better when they all transfer to Kansas City
First, as some of you have said, the Media is upset that he is making their job harder. I could not care less. Second, when a coach (teacher, boss, etc) starts -- its much easier to be tougher/stricter at the very beginning than to start getting tougher as time goes on. You set the tone -- and then you can become lenient or whatever as time goes on. In any event, if the strict coach wins -- its because of discipline and attention to detail. If he loses -- its because the team was too tight and tuned him out. If a guy like Herm wins -- its because he treated them like men and kept it loose. If he loses -- its because the inmates ran the asylum and there was no leadership.
I guess he felt the O-line was more pressing in the immediate sense, that he'd try his luck w/ Houston and Washington while that need was addressed. Besides, protecting Chad is screamingly important, and what good is a RB with no O-line?
im also really happy mangini is doing this.. i hate the ny media.. they never give the jets respect anyway.. i hope they have a really tough job ahead of them..
It's a little funny to me how we all rabidly support Mangini despite the fact that the Jets have never even stepped on the field together in a game. I have a feeling that unless the guy is a miracle worker, with what we're putting on the field the Mangini/TGG honeymoon may soon be coming to an end. Like the fans, the reporters should reserve judgement IMO until the team actually starts playing.
You're right about the Mangini ripping, but wrong about thinking he deserves the type of nonsense these Little Men are going to heap on him. They are acting like a bunch of children, and I hope the PR department treats them accordingly. These are a bunch of guys who are educated in the field of writing, and educated in football only through professional necessity and personal reasons. They are not qualified to tell any coach in the NFL how to run a practice, much less audaciously dictate what coaches have the right to do what during a practice. Where was Mark Canizzarro when we discovered from our entire TE corps following the departure of Hackett that they never, ever got reps in practice? Where were the criticisms? Nowhere. It was a one-and-done article. Face it, these writers think their opinions on these things have some sort of an impact on anything, when they only serve to annoy the people who pay their checks.
oh I dont deny that Canizzarro and most of the Media suck majorly bad, Im with you on that.And I also think that Herm gave out way too much info and was sometimes embarrasing in his press conferences. However, as a fan though, I would like to hear something from the coach of my favorite team besides the same extremely boring stuff he's been feeding out. And to not confirm a player having a freakin appendectomy when its already been confirmed by his agent and other sources, come on seriously. Or to issue an alphabetical depth chart? what a punk, why even issue one if its just a joke like that. People point at the similarities to Parcells, but in fact Parcells is one of the most vocal and fair coaches ever to coach in these respects, it seems like after every practice he has a half hour press conference discussing issues. He doesnt give up too much, but he's not a freakin robot either.
