The Loss Was On Sparano

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  1. JetsKickAss

    JetsKickAss Well-Known Member

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    Sorry guys, I am not blaming a special teams miscue in the 1st quarter or an interception by Sanchez that wasn't in the 4th quarter.

    This game was ours in the 4th quarter after we marched to the 3 yard line and also recovered the fumbled KO.

    This is on Sparano and Rex.

    The slant call was ASININE even if it is Joe Montana to Jerry Rice. It hasn't worked all year...it's a call for the 1st or 2nd quarter.
     
  2. Poeman

    Poeman Well-Known Member

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    They showed a funny fact on tv last night.

    We are 30th in the league on offense.

    hahaha
     
  3. tank75

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    the slant to schillens has actually worked a lot for the jets the past few games. what team are you watching?

    loss definitely not on sparano. you remember that big drop by stephen hill? or maybe that we had the lead before letting the pats drive down the field for 3 points?

    our offense is ranked bad but we have had a rough start of it minus the bills game. but it is clear as day that the offense is improving week to week.
     
  4. chris5533

    chris5533 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think sparano has been great at all, but he also hasn't had help. Greene other than colts game has been awful. He needs to be replaced. Sanchez has been terrible for the most part, when he hasn't been terrible he has gotten any help from the recievers. Hills drop yesterday for ex. Been perfect storm of allot of things.. Jets can't use tebow because there pretty much never playing with a lead and with greene avergaging 2 yards a carry the quicker than normal need to go pass heavy.. Its allot more than just sparano. The one thing I hate and its been all season is this 3/1 3/2 shotgun. I don't get it.
     
  5. Poeman

    Poeman Well-Known Member

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    Sparano is too aggressive at the wrong times...Who does he think he has? Aaron Rodgers out there?

    Its probably why he is hurting. I think Brett Favre would thrive with Spo
     
  6. DemoIsland

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    Oh you don't remember the JETS running empty back field with a QB who is only able to look at 1 side of the field? You recall the offense that couldn't even run 30 seconds off the clock, giving Brady more than a minute and a half to drive down the field? Not to mention the lack of Tebow in the red zone.

    I agree, a lot of this loss is on TS.
     
  7. NFL

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    I blame the coaching staff for the loss, but not for the slant, but for putting Tebow in one first down to run for a 2 yard gain. Or put him or Sanchez as a WR. Its smart to play 10 on 11 now a days. Yeah he's gotten a few punt fakes converted and a couple first Downs on 3rd but really he's killed a lot of drives too, not by doing something wrong but by the coaches putting him out there. Trade him to Jacksonville.
     
  8. tank75

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    bad pass by mark and open touchdown missed
    dropped pass from hill and first and goal or possible touchdown missed
    shillens unable to make the grab on a slant, missed td.
    running the ball effectively against one of the best rush ds in the league.

    it was a hard loss, but the opportunities to win it were there for the players. the coaching staff is definitely not to blame when the players leave points on the field.
     
  9. JetsKickAss

    JetsKickAss Well-Known Member

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    On 3rd and 1 ? From the other team's 2 ??? In the 4th quarter with time running down ???
     
  10. DemoIsland

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    Agreed. Its tough because it was a game we could have won. A huge steal in NE.
     
  11. 85inthehall

    85inthehall Well-Known Member

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    They misused Tebow - why is he in for a 2 yard run at the Jets 30 and not at the Pats 2?

    The slant failed 3 times yesterday -- not even close once.

    Why not go for it on 4th down when you are perfect at 3&1 with Greene running the ball or with Tebow who was getting 4 yards a clip?

    Just seems to not have a feel and out thinks himself at the wrong time.
     
  12. LeonNYJ

    LeonNYJ Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, Schilens should have had that ball, just sayin.
     
  13. truthbtold

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    Sparano is an imbecile, and Rex showed no balls.
    You run tebow on 3rd down ... and if you don't get in, you line up and run him on 4th down. Period.

    Kicking field goals from the 3 yard line (especiallyagainst the Pats) = A LOSS.
    What don't these guys understand about that?? Maybe it will finally sink in after yesterday.

    People say "if we ran twice and didn't score, you'd be bitching about that too". WRONG.

    Do what makes sense and succeed = no problem.
    Do what makes no sense and succeed = no problem.
    Do what makes sense and fail = no problem.

    Do what makes no sense and fail = BIG problem.

    And this idiot OC of ours always seems to be in the last category.

    There's almost no downside to going for it on 4th down from inside the 5 yard line ... and yet coaches refuse to do it. It's amazing to me.
     
  14. Poeman

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    I think they are using to keep his active playing streak alive. He has barely been used at all
     
  15. dr.velociraptor

    dr.velociraptor Tired of BS

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    Gotta love Sparano putting Sanchez in the shotgun on 3rd and 1 when Greene has been perfect on 3rd and 1. The guys is a terrible play caller.
     
  16. 85inthehall

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    When you settle for a field goal at the 2 you lose games.
    When you say you are all about ground and pound and have actually been incredible all season in 3rd&1 and you throw you lose games.

    Just awful play calling.
     
  17. truthbtold

    truthbtold Well-Known Member

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    NFL coaches always go by the "you gotta' put the points on the board" philosophy. The problem is, that philosophy is completely outdated, and doesn't work in the 2012 NFL. This isn't 1975 when teams were winning games 16-13. The game today is 90% geared toward the offense and it's all about scoring TDs.

    If you go for it on 4th down, statistically, the odds of scoring are stacked in the favor of the offense. Think about it ... how many goal line stands do we see in the NFL all year? Not too many. How many times do we see teams punch it in from the one? ALL THE FREAKIN' TIME!

    And even if they stop you, I honestly would prefer scoring no points and playing defense from the 2 yard line, over scoring 3 points and playing defense from the 20. There are so many good things that can happen when you have a team backed up against their goal line ... pick 6, safety, blocked punt etc .... and the least of these is getting the ball back at the 50 and probably getting a damn FG anyway!

    I would love to run an analysis to see the results of teams that have kicked successful FG's of 20 yards or less in the past 20 years. In a league where most games are decided by less than a TD, I'd bet my life that 75% of those teams wound up losing the game.
     
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    There was some really dumb play calling on offense but that was not the only issue in the game that could use improvement.
     
  19. horsehead

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    It was a team loss. Good teams make plays when it counts.
    You can point to a number of players/coaches who botched it up yesterday.

    Sparano didn't help, but it was definitely a group effort!
     
  20. JetsKickAss

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    Let me be clear: if Sparano calls a traditional pass play down at the goal on 3rd down, I still think it's the wrong call (remember: we were going for the 1st down, NOT the TD !!) but it's at least defensible.

    A slant call to Schillens is a terrible call. It's a high-risk call that can get stopped by (1) a good play by NE or (2) a lucky guy on NE being in the right place at the right time.

    Plus, it's less than 5 yards so Schillens can be bumped without penalty.

    It's an ASININE CALL -- and if you don't see Sparano defend it this week, that tells you that Rex told him not to talk to the press this week.
     

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