Couple lady luck with bad management and you've got a 33 year old running back's heir apparent running the ball in oakland for the next 6 seasons. THis is not flaming or living in the past but merely an observation that curtis martin had to break down after winning the rushing title which ultimately setting the table for his successor to flee new york. Who know's how different our offense could be (based on the preseason, who knows maybe we light it up) if we had a featured back to steady the ship behind chad. A back with big play ability could keep the defence honest and stop them from playing so close to the line daring chad to beat them with whats left of his arm. Lamont while far from perfect would imo fit the role perfectly but its unfortunate herms utter refusal to give him some carries in his final season served as a reminder as to why mangini is running the show now. Our running by commitee this season will inevitably set the stage for the j-e-t-s to take a running back with a high pick in the 07 draft and sadly im afraid this offense might struggle until that rookie develops behind what is a talented but inexperienced o-line. You may ask who i blame for our bleak running back situation, its not curtis, nor mangini or t-baum, its the complete j/ass/ moron terry bradway who did us war more harm than good for any jets fan's liking. Add the jordan debacle to taking a kicker in the second round, trading for doug jolley, passing on numerous pro bowl talents to reach early in the draft. Lets not even mention the 27 year old missionary drafted in the third round who has now saved more lives from a burning house than made tackles in the nfl. I mean give me a break with the ineptitude that has run our franchise for the previous 5 seasons. At this point im just thrilled that anybody is in charge in the front office let alone somebody whose actually qualified to run the position. Any body else had a gut feeling that things would play out exactly as they did even after curtis had his career year two years agO? p.s. dont get me wrong, i love curtis, i hope i can be at canton for his h.o.f induction but at this point how can anybody rest the hopes of a team on his shoulders alone? To much mileage and day-in day out beating to resist breaking down, he is human afterall.
Sounds like you got more love for Lamont than Curtis. You can always join Jeaux and be a Raiders fan. The Lamont trade happened, you can't change it, and living in the past is pretty much boring me. :wink: It's a new day in Jet-land - embrace it. :up:
Oh my god, we're still bitching about Lamont Jordan, probably the most overrated back (at least here in NY) in the NFL?
Lamont Jordan's absence (and Curtis Martin's presence) has set the Jet's rebuilding effort back considerably at this point. Next year we will likely take a first day tailback in the draft instead of something else that we need.
Jordan is so unbelievably overrated. I don't understand the love fest with him. What has he done in Oakland that makes anyone feel it was that big a deal? A healthy Martin blows away Jordan at any point in his career. There was no way to know Curtis would go south so quickly. Honestly, if his knees were even halfway healthy, he would still be better than Jordan. Bradway was a schmuck, and all the other original points were good, but the whole Jordan thing is tired. If he comes around and wins a rushing title, then okay, you can say "I told you so." Otherwise, he is nothing more than what we have now.
In regards to Lamont, letting him go was probably the best thing decision Badway and Big Werm did when you consider all the other screw ups involvin him. Screw up # 1-Drafting Lamont in the 1st place. We didn't need him. Curtis was in his prime; they drafted a 1st day RB 4-5 years too early. Also Lamont didn't fit the offense. If you recall we ran the West Coast offense at that time which required a good all around back. Lamont did not catch the ball well out of the backfield. His running style was more suited for a power running team. Despite what some Jets fans may say about Lamont to make themselves feel good, Lamont is a talented back. I felt that picking him was a waste of a 1st day pick because of those reasons I stated. Screw up # 2-Not playing him Lamont when given the touches proved that he can help the team. That in itself should have been reason enough to play him but, of course, they didn't. The funny thing is that we not talking baout giving 20 carries a game but jut 5-10. They chose to ride Martin to ground instead, ultimately shortening his career. If not for the sake of team, why not play him to increase his trade value? Screw up # 3-Not trading him Several teams, the Raiders and Texans to name a few, inquired about Lamont but Badway continued to turned them down. The classic Badway goof came in the 2003 draft. Badway turned down the Texans offer of their 3rd overall for Lamont and our 14th overall only to later trade both our # 1s (14th and 22nd overall) and a 4th Rd pick to the Bears for their 4th overall. They had a chance to trade an unhappy RB they don't use and only 1 of their 2 1st round picks for the player they wanted Robertson but decided to trade 3 picks instead. Signing Lamont when we had other more important players to sign would be adding insult to injury. We did the right thing not signing. Where we went wrong was not picking up a RB in the 1st day of the 05 and 06 drafts.
You guys do realize LaMont is 28? So he will probably only have 3-4 good years left. Where as if we draft a RB in the 1st round next year, he will be 23, giving us even more time.
Bradway has his share of the blame, but so does Tangini as explained below: http://www.nj.com/jets/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1156913111125760.xml&coll=1
New exciting RBs come along all the time. For best results you need to have an O-line first, so that's where we're at. Of course Curtis is an all-time back, but as Denver constantly proves, a lot of guys can get the job done.
1) This has nothing to do with the topic at hand. The poster was referring to Jordan. Mangini wasn't with the Jets and Tanny did what Bradway wanted. At least if you are going to troll, try to stay on topic. 2) So you would have traded half of the Jets draft picks for one player in Bush? Even though OL was a much bigger need. If they made the trade for Bush, you would be on here saying they gave away too much and should have taken Brick because OL was our biggest need. So give it up already. 3) To get White or Addai, they most lilkely could not have taken Mangold. Center was a bigger need, and anyone who says otherwise knows nothing about the Jets roster and problems last year. 4) The FO did take Washington, so they did listen to Martin's advice. However, this team has a lot of holes and they couldn't afford to take a high round RB this year. Can't address every need in just one draft.
Are you for real? I had never heard of that potential trade. How stupid does that make Bradway look holy crow!!!
I agree. Signing an unproven running back to a ridiculous contract that would have matched the Raiders offer would have been the height of stupidity, particularly when you consider his age. Completely disagree. There was no way of knowing that Curtis Martin was going to continue at his current level. Most running backs die at 30, and Martin was 28, coming off of a season where he averaged 3.8 yards a carry, and his contract was soon to be up. Moreover, your analysis of Jordan is completely inaccurate. Rob Rang's scouting reports of Jordan compared his versatility to that of Marshall Faulk, and a consistently mentioned positive aspect of his game was his hands. THE MISTAKE was, once we had Jordan, re-signing Martin to a monstrous reward contract that proved prohibitive and left us with few options. I hardly think they rode Martin into the ground, shortening his career. Martin suffered an in game knee injury last year that could have happened to any back, and at his age it's proved career terminal. When a guy leads the league in rushing at that age there's little evidence to support the idea that he was run into the ground. The Jets should probably have given Jordan more carries, but Martin was moving the ball rather effectively on his own.
Why oh why can't people let gone players go...Lamonte was a great alternative to Curtis with his bull-rush speed and straight ahead technique...and he was more than that too...but he was NEVER our future. I say gone...especially since is playing for the Weird Al despised Faders
I agree with a lof of what you said and was an early proponent for not resigning Curtis...... And Bradway was a complete imbecile. But, if the OL jells this year or maybe just needs 1 more piece (RT?), A young Stud could do well right from the start next year. :Adrian Peterson: Hopefully Clemens is the man and we don't have to hope for Brady Quinn. We need some luck NOW.
If it's possible that you didn't jump the shark already, you just did right here..... because you're using words like 'blame' as if they did something bad and the the team hasn't played a game, nor have the guys you say they should have drafted. Not really, anyway. Maybe those guys get hurt on their first carry. I can understand you not liking a Mangini and Tannenbaum for whatever reason and even predicting they'll fail, but to post as if they've failed already is dumb. There's no blame! We're gonna kick the Titans Ass! The sad thing is, ,if you are even a Jets fan, you're going to be rooting for them to lose so you're right, and that's just sad. Who wants to be made to look wrong? No one. I hope telemarketers call you all game long and then your Mother in Law comes over. :lol:
