The 1 Biggest Diff. in the O

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  1. jetliberty

    jetliberty New Member

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    If you noticed, Chad had everyone set at their positions very early. He had a lot of time to read the D and was able to make changes. They had no delay of game! They were set right away and I feel this made the biggest diff. in Chad and the O. Good job!!! and nice way to start the season.
     
  2. 3lixer.

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    I was impressed the O-Line gave Chad plenty of time to throw. He may not have the strongest arm, but given time in the pocket he can get the ball to the open man 9 times out of 10.
     
  3. Buttle

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    Actually he had no time to throw. What they smartly did was negate the rush by quick passes. After we had hurt Tenn. enough with the short passes we were able to mix it up with a few medium routes. Chad also did the best job I have ever seen him doing moving around the pocket. He showed a lot mroe poise in the pocket than he has ever shown before. But I agree with the OP that we did seem to get to the line faster and it allowed Chad to make a few nice reads and audibles at the line.
     
  4. Cinvis

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    Excellent point... if you watch our games from years gone by (and most of the lousy O's in the league) they all take forever to call the plays from the sidelines. The good O's give the QB time to look at the D before the snap...
     
  5. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    We didn't give Chad enough time on quite a few plays. As far as the OLine, my biggest positive impression is on a play that we screwed up.

    Penny's fumble.

    I give a TON of credit to Mangold for having the presence of mind to knock that ball out of the end zone, rather than grab it for a safety. That showed NFL maturity you never see from rookies. Yes, Tenn scored a TD on the resulting drive, but we didn't sacrifice the 2 points first.

    That's my play of the game.
     
  6. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    So you'd rather give them the chance to tie right there instead of just giving them 2 pts? I'd take the safety and give our D a chance instead of giving them the ball at the 1. I heard Wilcots say what you said and i didn't agree.
     
  7. JetsIn2004

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    Actually, I doubt he did it on purpose, and it WAS NOT A BRIGHT MOVE if he did it on purpose.

    Recover the ball. If it's a safety, fine, you're still winning 16-10. Giving the ball at the one guaranteed 16-14, and as it ended up, with the 2 pointer, made it a tie game.
     
  8. JoeJet

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    I was really impressed with how fast Chad got the O-line to the line of scrimmage....several times I thought they were going to get a delay of game,,,,and then I saw the time clock and they usually had 6-8 seconds left to snap it..........
     
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    Yea same here.....theres was alot of motion and changing of the play @ the line too.....very impressed except for a few plays..... :finssuck:
     
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    And I was amazed. First or second series, we went 5 receivers, shotgun. What a concept!
     
  11. vilmatic

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    I agree, that was a great sight to see. I just hope that forcing the linemen to hold their stances for so long doesn't result in too many extra false starts. It's a minor thing, something the COlts have had to deal with and hell, it ain't hurt them too much, but it's something to pay attention to (Ahem, Brandon Moore, ahem)
     
  12. AlioTheFool

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    To nyjunc, and JI2004, who think Mangold's play wasn't good, what would you have said if he took the safety, then the Titans marched down the field for 7?

    And would your opinion have been different if the D had held for 3 downs, and just gave up a field goal?

    It was a smart play. Giving up points is never a good idea.
     
  13. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    They had first and goal from the 1. You're telling me they wouldn't have at least gotten 3 in that situation? Mangold tried to recover it. If he had knocked the ball out of the endzone, it would have been a safety and a smart play.

    If the D had done an amazing job and held them to that 3, my opinion would have been that 3 is more than 2, and I would rather have them have 2 points than 3.
     
  14. jdon

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    It was nice to see him calling audibles, which Hackett did not let him do. As smart a QB as Chad is, and they don't let him call audibles. I always got the impression that Chad was very uncomfortable defending the OC back then. Heimerdinger might have let him call them but Chad only played a couple of games last year. These guys match up-- they attack a team's weaknesses. I have seen New England come out and throw 15 passes in a row. They do what they have to do. Herman was incapable of outsmarting the other coach. And Hackett was brutally inflexible.
     
  15. AlioTheFool

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    So hand them a free 2 points, and then free kick them the ball? All in front of a crowd that was getting louder by the second at that point? Against an offense that had finally figured out how to start moving the ball?

    Should we have laid out rose petals for their offense to walk on towards the endzone as well?

    If they score the 3, then the Jets get the ball back, five points better than they wound up. So if 3 is better than a potential 9 or 10, okay you have a point. I'm willing to bet Buffalo would not agree that giving up a safety is good idea.

    You guys puzzle me sometimes. You really do.
     
  16. nyjetsrule

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    ahem, i agree that the mangold play was not the brightest idea, but i don't think mangold really had a choice.. i think that in the mad scramble he was trying to get the ball, but accidentally knocked it out, i prefer to give them the 2 points. Trust your d. they had only given up one drive down the field at that point in the game, yes the crowd was picking up, and the offense was gaining momentum, but Collins folds with pressure, he always folds under pressure. just watch him in the superbowl in 2000 vs. the ravens... Collins was having a terrible game all day yesterday and with pressure on the next drive another pick was possible he had a million terrible throws... why not one more?

    Back to Mangold really quickly.. i guess i just changed my mind... you knock the ball out of the endzone because there is still the chance you guys pick up the ball.. what would have happened if Mangold had held on to the ball, instead of knocking it out when one of our guys was going to pick up the ball and run with it? how it happened was unfortunate... but had it gone worse... and mangold fell on it or if he tried to knock it out the back and the titans fell on the ball we would be crucifying mangold right now, even though we would still have won
     
  17. ViLMaNiaC51

    ViLMaNiaC51 New Member

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    I really like how Schottenheimer (spelling) set this offense up...the running game didn't really produce but hopefully the offensive line will mesh but the ball seems to being spread around and we are stretching the field going deep! With that and the weapon in Brad Smith gives us a lot of options for this 06 season.
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    you take your chances being up 6 instead of tied. the smart move is to knock it out of the EZ and trust your D. You don't want to guve up pts but isn't it better to give up 2 rather than 8?
     
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    Idealogy.

    Unlike with Herm, when something wasn't working (running game this instance) the play calling was switched up, as well as enough different looks and variety of passes to different receivers to keep the opposition guessing.
     

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