"Tampering accusation worse than Spygate if true"

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  1. abyzmul

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    Tampering accusation worse than Spygate if true

    By Charles Robinson, Yahoo! Sports Sep 24, 1:55 pm EDT


    There are no hidden cameras to be seized, no long-established feelings of hatred. The key figures involved have yet to carve out rock-star status in the NFL, and unless something unexpected comes to light, the NFL won?t be destroying any evidence.

    So, no, this isn?t Spygate. However, it might actually be worse.

    That?s what some league executives and at least one owner had to say this week, after the San Francisco 49ers, frustrated at their lack of progress in signing No. 10 NFL draft pick Michael Crabtree(notes), filed a tampering charge against the New York Jets. In what executives are viewing as an extremely serious allegation, the 49ers are alleging, either tacitly or directly, the Jets have played a role in undercutting San Francisco?s ability to sign its first-round pick. And while the charge doesn?t have the sparks and scandal of Spygate, in which the New England Patriots were disciplined for illegally videotaping Jets? defensive signals in 2007, it?s being viewed as no less serious in some NFL corners.

    ?[Spygate] was limited,? said a high-ranking NFC executive. ?That?s something where ? that information or competitive edge or whatever you want to call it, was limited to one team gaining an advantage over another team. But that?s just two teams. ? We all have first-round picks ? 32 teams have first-round picks.

    ?It?s hard to prove if it did happen. But if it did, it?s cheating the whole draft. You shouldn?t even be thinking about someone else?s pick. When the draft is over, that?s their deal and you have your own [selections] to worry about. It?s none of your business what is happening in someone else?s [negotiations]. If that [tampering with draft picks] flies, we might as well just make all the college players free agents.?

    The crux of the 49ers? tampering charge still hasn?t been fleshed out publicly. But NFL security officials have already been tasked with the investigation, and three league sources told Yahoo! Sports the 49ers believe the Jets were in contact with Crabtree?s agent, Eugene Parker, to talk about the former Texas Tech wideout after he had already been selected in the draft.

    It?s certainly not the first time these two teams have been entangled in a league investigation. The 49ers are the last team to have a draft choice stripped, a fifth-rounder in the 2008 draft, for tampering with Chicago Bears linebacker Lance Briggs(notes). The Jets were accused of tampering with Patriots receiver Deion Branch(notes) in 2006, and also were fined $125,000 earlier this month for manipulating their injury reports last season. ESPN also reported late last month that the Denver Broncos were considering filing tampering charges against the Jets in relation to wideout Brandon Marshall(notes). No charge was ever filed in that case.

    While it?s not known if San Francisco is alleging negotiations took place between Parker and the Jets, it?s worth noting that Deion Sanders, a former Parker client and self-described occasional ?counselor? to Crabtree, insinuated in an interview with the NFL Network that Crabtree believes he can get ?$40 million? from an NFL team.

    Said Sanders in that interview, ?Why would you settle for $20 million [from San Francisco] when you feel like you can get $40 million? That?s the problem.?

    Sanders also reiterated that Crabtree would be willing to re-enter the 2010 draft, further fueling speculation the rookie has some kind of salary guarantee from another team. Theoretically, Crabtree could secure the contract he desires from another NFL team and then hold out the entire season, forcing the 49ers to eventually trade his rights ? ideally to the team which has already hammered out the contract he desires. Per league rules, San Francisco cannot trade Crabtree?s draft rights until March ? something the team would likely do if it appears Crabtree was certain to re-enter the draft.

    Parker, who could be disciplined by the NFL Players Association if the charges are found to be true, didn?t return a phone call seeking comment on the tampering charges. Both 49ers general manager Scot McCloughan and team president Jed York refused Yahoo! Sports? interview requests through a spokesman last week. However, the Jets vehemently denied tampering with Crabtree this week.

    ?It?s not accurate,? Jets coach Rex Ryan said of the charge. ?It?s not true. But we?ll let the league figure this out. I?ve said all I?m going to say about it. It?s not true.?

    Barring the discovery of some significant evidence, the tampering charge will be difficult to prove. Many NFL front-office executives consider tampering to be a consistent league problem, whether it?s occurring with potential free agents or disgruntled stars looking for an exit strategy from a franchise. And it?s not uncommon for executives who have been long removed from the NFL to admit to some form of tampering (though they typically don?t name specific incidents).

    Interestingly, former NFL executive Michael Lombardi told Showtime?s ?Inside the NFL? this week that he took part in tampering during the course of his NFL career, which included stints in the front offices of the Cleveland Browns and Oakland Raiders.

    ?It?s very difficult to prove,? Lombardi said. ?Trust me, I?ve been a tamperer. I?ve been in the NFL for over 20 years, so I have tampered my fair share of times.?

    But rarely does a charge involve one team accusing another of undermining its negotiations with a draft pick. And that?s what makes the latest charge a hot-button issue in other league corners.

    As one owner told Yahoo! Sports, ?Can you imagine what this does to the league if you start interfering with draft picks and the ability to sign them? If [Parker] gets this kid some deal next year [from another team] that doesn?t make sense, I?m sure that the other owners are going to have a fit. ? It?s ridiculous. You?re talking about a player who probably could help [the 49ers] win some games and that?s been toyed with. If I was [Jed York], I?d be furious.?


    And for a bonus, here's a Pats fan thread with them begging whatever god they prayed to as they dry-heaved into the toilet on Monday morning that the charges are in fact true... :)
     
  2. nyjcanada

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    tannenbaum has been in more than his fair share of controversies. it's getting old, and if this is true, tanny needs to read the riot act.
     
  3. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    the theory of what's going on is valid. You can't fuck with draft picks - its unethical. But if Tanny was talking to Parker about Keller and asked how things with Crabtree are going and Parker then used that against the 49ers in the negotiations I can see where this is all coming from.

    This better not result in a conviction or else the jets will be out of a pick in one of the most talented drafts in a decade.
     
  4. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    The niners probably put all the teams that "need" a WR in a hat and drew one and filed a charge
     
  5. Mambo9

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    Bunch of morons... tampering will always exist in the NFL... The real a-hole in this situation is probably Parker who, not satisfied by what the 49ers offered, "shopped" Crabtree to other teams.

    I must admit the Jets FO is getting a lot of hate lately :p
     
  6. kbgreen

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    That story was weak in facts! It's all speculation! If true... Hard to prove... but If it did thats all crap! This reporter didn't have anything to report so he reported heresay!

    This has more of a chance of being a mountian out of a mole hill than the other way around.
     
  7. Mambo9

    Mambo9 Well-Known Member

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    PS I hope this doesn't make us sign Crabtree (if we ever thought about that) :p I hate the guy and although talented he will never do anything good in the NFL.
     
  8. Jersey Joe 67

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    One writer said it best in i think the Daily News. The JETS have been linked to every high profile WR on the market from Braylon Edwards to Boldin, Burress,Marshall, and now Crabtree.
    We haven't drafted a WR in the first round since Moss. Instead of retreaded malcontents or other teams draft picks it's time we step up and fill a HUGE void and pick our own WR in the draft.
     
  9. Don

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    Just the opposite, this will make us run not walk away from him as fast as we can go.
     
  10. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    I'm trying to figure out how spygate was only between two teams? The Pats had tape on everyone.
     
  11. Section 227. Row 5

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    Weak on facts? The story is totally VOID of facts. What an absolutely worthless POS article. I read the entire boring, poorly-written piece of crap and nowhere does he come close to proving to the reader that the "Tampering accusation is worse than Spygate if true," yet, that's the fucking headline!

    Irresponsible "journalism" at it's worst.
     
  12. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    So what you're saying is that the GM should've done something differently with the construction of this team, and that he shouldn't do due diligence in investigating other potential possibilities around the NFL?

    Maybe he should be playing Solitaire all day?
     
  13. DHarris52

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    No offense, but this is a bullshit excuse. If it were the Jets in the 49ers position, every single one of us would be on here calling for heads to roll and wanting their first round picks in the next 17 drafts.

    IF these allegations turn out to be accurate, this will go down as one of the biggest rule infranctions in NFL history.
     
  14. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    It's getting overblown because it's the Jets.

    Or has everyone forgotten that San Francisco actually WAS found guilty of tampering... but that's nowhere near one of the largest infractions in NFL history, eh?
     
  15. Quinnenthebeast

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    If we say that everyone tampers and the Jets are no different then most of us would be hypocrites. We would be acting exactly like Pats fans if we shrugged this one off, but the Jets are innocent until proven guilty. If the NFL can't come up with evidence to support this claim by the 9ers, then who cares.

    That being said, I am almost certain the Jets would not purposely go out of their way to undermine the initial Crabtree negotiations, I couldn't believe Tanny would do such a thing. I believe information was misconstrued by the Jets mentioning Crabtrees contract situation and Crabtree's agent jumped the gun believed the Jets wanted to actively pursue Crabtree. In an agent's eyes, the Jets "offering" Crabtree a deal is exactly the type of leverage to get the 9ers to the table. I personally don't believe anything will come out of this.
     
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  16. Hemi

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    I agree, it is all speculation. But he had to have the sensational headline. Even though it sounds like a commonplace thing in the NFL. Even one of their own broadcasters for NFL Network admits to tampering.
     
  17. DHarris52

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    Problem is, there's no set standard for league penalties. It is from Goodell's lips to God's ear which is unfortunate.

    I have a feeling that if, and I realize that's a big if, these reports are found to be accurate, we will be made an example of.
     
  18. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    See the difference between us and Pats fans, is that the Pats have already been found guilty of something, and have had an opportunity to shrug it off.

    Jets fans aren't shrugging anything off because nothing has been proven yet. And regardless, if the Jets are found guilty, it won't matter what the fans do because the Jets will get punished regardless.
     
  19. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Perhaps to the tune of a 5th round pick.
     
  20. Hemi

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    I just can't see MikeT being this stupid.
     

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