We have sooooo many holes 2 fill. Remember how optimistic about the draft we were with the #4,#29 and #35 pick. Remember when we said we would be very happy with any of the top 5 projected picks. Reggie Bush is a great talent, don't get me wrong but 3 picks in the top 35 and being more than satisfied w/ the other 4 top 5 prospects I WOULD HATE TO SEE US MOVE UP. ----Keep in mind current preseason rankings has us as the 31st worst team in football (only the 49rs are beind us). So lets stockpile 4 the future with our 3 picks please.
I think the thing alot of people are forgetting here is the versatility of Bush. He is not JUST your typical RB, he can also line up at WR and make plays, and is a hell of punt returner (is everyone so soon to forget how much trouble we had with that last year). To me, #4, #29/35 and #71 is a small price to pay in order to get HANDS DOWN the best player in the draft.
please shut up. reggie bush is exactly what the jets need. if the jets dont grow a pair and move up, then im just gonna switch teams, cause this is the best possible prospect we could ever get. fuck leinart ferguson young davis or cutler. we probably have a decent enough line so do dont be a punch of pansies and say we need so much more than a RB. this guy could be a michael jordan of football. dont pass it up cause we need a RT and a DT.
I am against the Jets trading up.....especially when he could fall into our lap at 4 anyway. We have way to many holes to fill to throw it all away on one player. By the way, no running back will ever be the "Michael Jordan" of football. Ever.
i like how there are such media whored fans in NYC, or at the least NYC teams....then we get stuff like "please shut up"...anyone who immediately comes back like that when someone actually talks about a rational decision, should just go find some way to jump off the face of the earth and then do it.. i want to stay at 4 too besides all this versatility nonsense, do you really think with the money he'll get that he's going to be returning..yeah don't think so... heh, unless reggie magically can play on the defensive line, the offensive line, in the secondary and at linebacker, we dont need to trade up for him theres a reason everyone wants to trade down, and its because there is great depth in this draft at almost every position save for WR (and maybe DE, but if we go 3-4 it wont matter there are a ton of good prospects that will have to switch from DE to OLB in this draft)
I didn't say he would I said he may.....because NO are adequately stocked at RB, and the Titans require a QB. Those are the factors that *may* let Bush drop to us....it is highly doubtful though. There are too many people on here who have been watching highlight reels....Bush is a one man highlight reel, but does one man win you Super Bowls? If Bush was a QB and played at the same level he does as a RB, I might be talking different. He's a tailback FFS.....yes he is a fantastic player, but he is not worth throwing away the entire draft for.
IMO, Bush is worth making a move of some sort. We will have to overpay to some degree. That is ther real issue here, to what degree do the Jets overpay? I am not for giving away the future for ONE player and I seriously doubt that the new FO will let it get out of hand. That said, the FO should make every possible effort to make a reasonable deal for the #2 pick. Tangini just has to keep their cool. The Saints want that 4th pick. They still get a franchise player and they can still get D'Brick or Hawk, both of whom will be gone by the 6th pick. If the Saints think Katrina was bad, just let them trade lower than pick #6 and the next storm they will see will be the fans storming the headquarters looking for heads. For the first time in a long time, I have some faith in the FO. These guys are prepared and will not hit the panic button.
we need to keep our 2nd and 3rd rounders if we do move up we need a line so we can run and throw. we need some good young bodies up front
Bush is an excellent player. We have needs fine I agree but you don't pass up on a player like Reggie Bush. Those dump off's from Leinart in which he would take to the house, I can see Chad doing that now. IMO just having someone like Bush will take some pressure of the QB who ever it may be. I think we need to get Bush. Who else? A QB would be nice but to take D'Brick so high when the talent that is present would be tough.
The running back position is extrememly overrated. If we can establish a system like Denver or KC, we can stick anyone in the backfield and they would be productive. On the other hand, I don't care how great Bush is, he can't create holes to run through if the O-line doesn't. I agree with the original poster, stay where we are. I think the most I'm willing to part with is our two first rounders.
Trading up is the very worst thing this FO can do. If the rumors are true as they sound, I say take Leinart if he's there - not necessarily because Jets will groom him to be the next QB, but more so because Al Davis would give up his arms and legs for that kid. Yes, I am telling them to TRADE DOWN instead of trading up.
NO is making their Christmas wish list for Reggie Bush. If the Jets say that they they will pay ANY price to get him then the price always goes UP. The Jets FO will make a decent offer (like 4, 35 and 71) and then play the waiting game to see how many other teams want to get into the Reggie Bush sweepstakes...if not, we will sit and wait with NO to see who BLINKS first.
No trade up. Of course, if Bush falls to 4, he would be near impossible to pass up. It wouldn't be a an ignored need, but jumping to 2 is going to cost way too much. THAT would ignore needs. Hell, I would still be okay with trading down from 4 if Bush fell there. We could get a king's ransom if Bush is there to trade at 4. Green Bay would help us, since they are probably ready to snap him up if we pass on him. We could walk away from this with so many draft picks we could rebuild the whole freaking team. I'm really pissed off we lost Mario. There isn't much we can do about it now, so it's time to consider who to take if we stay at 4 and Bush has already left the board. I'm still not convinced Brick is the option to go with, so who do we pick? Vernon Davis maybe? Yes, another TE, but a possible game-changer. Hawk? Another good option, and then Lawson comes off our wishlist, freeing up the 29 for Mangold. The only other guy I can see us taking is Cutler, but the FO has made it pretty clear lately that 4 is too high for Cutler. So I guess my chart goes like this now: Bush Trade the 4 Davis Hawk
Bush is a once in a generation pick. If you don't think a running back can be effective w/o a great line, watch some old barry sanders footage. If you don't think a versatile running back with play maker abilities can change a team, watch Faulk on the 2001 Rams, or watch any Seahawks game last year. Yes the Jets are thin on the O-Line, but that's what the later round picks are for. Yes Pennington might be finished, but there are plenty of questions about all the QB's in this draft. I'd rather see the Jets go after Volek or Vick's backup (Schaub?) once we know Chad is done. I say, cowboy up and trade up.
Gentlemen, I've been saying all along that we should stay put at #4. Maybe I'm being blindly optimistic but I have this weird feeling that somebody that we don't expect is going to drop to #4. Stay put or trade down (for a Kings ransom of course). Don't trade up. We have too many holes to fill to have the luxury of giving up most of our draft picks for one player. As for our pick, I'm still hoping that we go for A.J. Hawk but my gut also tells me that that ain't gonna happen. BAP all the way!!! :wink:
You are right. A good RB can be good without a line. However, if you remember something about Barry Sanders, he never even came CLOSE to a Super Bowl. Emmit Smith, who wasn't even in the same class as Barry IMO, won repeatedly, behind a fantastic OLine. I want wins, not electricity. Faulk and Alexander had good lines as well. I don't want a QB this year. I want Quinn next year, so this really doesn't matter. Volek is a backup, and I compare him to Bolly. A great option to have in the background, but not a guy you want to rely on for 16 games. We tried to get Schaub already. Hell, we offered Abraham for him. Atlanta wasn't having anything to do with that deal. He is slated to be a FA at the end of next season, but I can almost guarantee you that he will be signed for another 4 or 5 years by the end of November. ATL won't take the chance that they won't have a quality QB to backup the oft-injured Vick.
