State of the Franchise: QB

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  1. GA Jets

    GA Jets New Member

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    Mark Sanchez - 3rd Year: His play, development, toughness and leadership the past 2 seasons have made most of us believe that he is developing into our Franchise QB. He came into 2010 as the 3rd youngest player in the NFL, next season he will still be one of the youngest players, but he will have 37 games of experience under his belt with a 4-2 playoff record. This season we are looking for Sanchez to improve his passing accuracy to at least 60% with better redzone efficiency. He showed better accuracy the first 2 preseason games while struggling in the the 3rd. I am hoping to see him play more consistent this season as well. I would like to see him play the way he does in the 4th quarter for the entire game, hopefully his maturity will help become a more consistent and efficient Quarterback this season.

    2011 Back-ups

    Mark Brunell - 19th Year: He has been a great mentor for Sanchez, provides great experience, but how much longer will his arm and legs hold up. Wouldn't surprise me to see him added to Rex's coaching staff when he finally hangs up the cleats, Sanchez said that he is like a big brother to him. Brunell was cut by the Jets, and resigned a few days later, he will be the No. 2 QB this season, hopefully he will not have to see the field other than mop up duty. Preseason injuries kept him from seeing any game action, hopefully his years of experience will overcome his lack of play if needed. This will more than likely be his last season with the Jets, McElroy showed enough in the preseason to take over as the second string QB in 2012.

    Kevin O'Connell - 4th year: Was resigned by the Jets after McElroy was placed on the I.R. This signing says a lot about what the Jets felt about Clemens ability to play QB as he was also available. O'Connell has been in the Jets system for several years and should be able to step in with full knowledge of the play book if needed. Like Brunell, hopefully we will never have to see O'Connell on the field for the Jets this season. The scouting report on O'Connell is that his strengths are his Great size and a plus arm. Can fire the ball into tight spots. Runs well and will bowl defenders over. Can throw out of the pocket as well. His weaknesses are that he is very raw. Throwing mechanics need some serious work. A streak shooter. Still very inconsistent and unproven. Needs to adjust.
    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/34878/kevin-o-connell

    2011 Injured Reserve:

    Greg McElroy - Rookie: The 7th round pick will be developed as the future back-up to Sanchez. Strengths - has rare intangibles. Team-first player who works tirelessly at practice and in the film room to master an offense. Can scan the field and run through his progressions. Will throw receivers open. Shows good accuracy in the short to intermediate passing game. Quick release. Good pocket mobility and drop discipline. Weaknesses - Does not possess the physical measurable of an NFL starting quarterback. Sub-average size coupled with less-than-adequate arm strength. Will not be able to fit the ball into tight spots down the field at the next level. Deep ball floats on him. Below average speed and not a threat to pick up yards with his legs. does do a good job on play-action passing and throwing outside of the pocket. Had an encouraging preseason and looks to be the Jets 2nd QB of the future. He will spend this season recovering from his thumb surgery and learning from Sanchez, Brunell and the coaching staff. Thing should slow down for him next season and hopefully the 2nd team O-line he plays behind next season will not be on skates!

    2011 Outlook:

    The future looks bright with Sanchez as our starting QB, and McElroy in waiting as his future back-up after a season of grooming by Brunell, Sanchez and the coaching staff. Unfortunately, this season, with McElroy being placed on the I.R. is not as bright. If Sanchez, god forbid has to miss an extended period of time, I do not have the confidence in Brunell to stay healthy as the starter and O'Connell's abilities to feel secure as a replacement.
     
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  2. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Good idea for a thread.

    Sanchez will learn how to do all of those things in time. He does look at overhead pictures. Just because the TV doesn't show it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

    Sanchez's biggest issue is that he's in his 2nd year and has not taken as many snaps as other QBs. He said that he's never felt more prepared for a game in his life when discussing the Steelers game in the locker room after the loss. He's taken the next step in his progression, the game is slowing down further. Fan patience will be rewarded with a QB who will exceed my expectations from when he was first drafted. I didn't think he'd be this dynamic this quickly.

    The depth does blow. If Brunell wants to be a #3, that's a decent #3 to have. I'd like a FA to come in who can not lose a game as the #2. I think Clemens' days are numbered in a Jet uniform. He'll catch on with someone else.
     
  3. ToonWalker

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    What's so encouraging is that in 2 seasons Sanchez has been in 2 AFCCgames, and he's not close to his peak yet.
    He's clearly The Franchise.
     
  4. The Mak

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    Sanchez is the man. Our Quarterback.

    And he is a dick.
     
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    This is just stupid if you think he does not study overheads during the game.
     
  6. milcus

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    Sanchez is going to be the starter for the next 2 years no matter what, as long as he is healthy. The key here is the back-up. No more Brunell's. There has to be a legit option if Sanchez struggles and the team needs someone to step in for him. Whether that is late round pick or a free agent, the key is to get someone who can be a quality back-up qb.
     
  7. JetsVilma28

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    What's so encouraging is that Sanchez has won 4 playoff games on the road.

    Of which, we were the underdog in all.
     
  8. GA Jets

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    Just saying, I have watched every game he has played in and have never seen a shot of him studying on the side lines, he is usually just sitting or standing around. Whenever I see a shot of Manning or Brady on the side lines they usually have film in front of them. Hopefully I am wrong, I just find it odd that I have never seen it, and I've been paying attention to it for the last season and a half since I first noticed it. If he is doing it, great, if not, he needs to start.
     
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    Was just going to say that. That and what happened to 2011.

    It'll be interesting to see how the QB competition plays out for the backups. The addition of Drew Willy tells me the team has already given up on one of our young QBs, and I expect a cut to come quickly after the CBA.
     
  10. NDmick

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    People who have gone to games have said he looks at the pictures.

    TV coverage gives you nothing. Think about all the plays you see and don't realize that's when Sanchez is looking at pictures.
     
  11. nyjcanada

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    What options are available at backup? Brunell played well in pre-season against 2nd teams and against 2nd-rate teams like the Bills. However, he obviously is old and we need some kind of stability at backup.
     
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    Sanchez's throwing motion has changed considerably since the Jets drafted him, for the reasons you've stated. Watch the Steelers game his release is really high,making him a much 'taller' player.
    Throwing lanes: Brees excels at this, and this will come with time/coaching for Nacho .
    But I also think Sanchez's' development is way ahead now and is obvious that we have a nerd at QB when it comes to study.
    Compare season 1 to season 2 and his reads are much much quicker and of course , (for me) the biggest change this season is his ability to scramble and extend the play. Not only that but make good decisions doing it as well.

    Nice thread idea :up:
     
  13. ace_o_spades

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    I look for 3600 yards, a shade over 60% completion 24 TDs and 12 INTs in 2011.

    I don't think that's an unreasonable projection. His post season numbers this year were 616 yards, 61.4% completion, 5 TDs and 1 INT. He missed a fairly easy TD in the Colts game right before the half...his numbers would be even better this postseason. I think he's ready to make that jump next year.
     
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  14. al toon 88

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    I don't like Sanchez....but two or three years ago QBs like Ryan, Rodgers and Rivers played like our #6...
    Said that my idea of a franchise QB is Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees and mr. Sanchez is far away from those guys.
     
  15. JetsUK

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    Other than the fact he has an awesome name
     
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    Wut?

    First off, you state that you don't like Sanchez, giving no reason for this, other than the comment about Rodgers, Rivers and Ryan. Three years ago Ryan nor Rodgers were even starting QBs in the league, so how can you say they were playing like Nacho? Then two years ago, all of the players you named had very good seasons (Ryan's season was very good for a rookie QB) "playing like our #6". If they were playing two years ago like Sanchez is now, that would mean that you're not a fan of quarterbacks who have a ~4000 yd 30 TD 10 INT -typish season. Now why is that?

    Obviously Sanchez wasn't that good stat wise, but the he knows how to win. With a 19-12 record in the regural season and a 4-2 record in the palyoffs, all on the road from a 24 year old 2nd year QB is amazing. How could you not like Sanchez?
     
  17. NDmick

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    My idea of a Jet fan isn't you. So find another team.
     
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    I think a six year old hacked your account. This post is fucking retarded.
     
  19. nyjcanada

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    I don't really care about the yards, or the TD count to be honest. I just care about Sanchez's completion percentage showing a drastic improvement, and keep improving that turnover amount (less than 13 picks and 0 FL).
     
  20. NDmick

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    luckily they go hand in hand. If he's completing more passes, the yards go up and so do the TDs and the INTs drop. I'd laugh if the NFL decided to make INTs completed passes. Someone caught them right?

    And if he's completing more passes, then he'll keep the defense off the field and when they do get on, they can attack the QB because they'll be playing with a lead.

    This equation leads to 12 win season. CAN'T WAIT
     

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