Some'stuff' to improve on- Randy Lange

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  1. Kentucky Jet

    Kentucky Jet Active Member

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    Some 'Stuff' to Improve On
    Published: Mon, June 25, 1:50pm EST

    By Randy Lange
    Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.


    File Under: David Harris, Jonathan Vilma, Stuffs, Jets

    change font email article 06/25 ? It's late June and many of us are planning to scatter for the oceans, the mountains, the city, the country. And that includes most of the Jets' players and coaches, who will pack in one last stretch of down time before Training Camp II under head coach Eric Mangini.

    But we're going to keep cranking out the content for you here at newyorkjets.com. We've got fun and funky features in the pipeline on players' off-season plans and profiles on the members of our new, yet-to-be-named flag crew.

    And with this blog, I'm kicking off a twice-weekly feature for the next four weeks that we can call "The Trendy AFC East." I'll take each team in the division and go over two trends it either established or extended last season, one downward drift that it wants to turn around in 2007 and one upward tendency that it wants to keep building on.

    For starters, let's take the Jets' defense and its penchant for (not) making tackles behind the line of scrimmage. The Green & White was one of the bottom "D's" in the NFL in this category.

    First, though, we should define terms. "Stuff" is the word that Stats Inc. and others use to mean a tackle for a loss on a running play. Nothing wrong with that definition, except that it's one of several ways to measure how often a defense spends time in the other teams' backfield.

    For example, for more than a decade I've charted the Jets' "tackles for loss/no gain." The reason for the "no gain" part is that then the stat coincides with the criteria for sacks ? a sack is credited whenever a QB is taken down at or behind the line of scrimmage, so zero-yard sacks do occur. And I've included in that charting tackles at or behind the line on pass completions, not as frequent as TFLNG's on runs but equally devastating to offensive continuity.

    But "stuffs" it is for this conversation, and so we can say this about the 2006 Jets: They were among the least successful in the NFL with 25 tackles for loss on running plays. In fact, they were tied with two other teams for last in the league. And according to Stats Inc., those 25 TFL's are the fewest in a season since the independent group started recording the statistic in 1994.

    Here are the lowest unofficial totals in the league last season:

    Rank Team TFLs Yds Lost
    32 JETS 25 52
    New England 25 43
    San Diego 25 55
    29 Dallas 26 63
    28 Washington 27 53
    Green Bay 27 39

    You may notice that the list is top-heavy with 3-4 playoff teams and you could say that those read-and-react type fronts don't have as many opportunities to play behind the line as do those one-gapping 4-3s.

    But the Jets have been a 4-3 as well as a 3-4 for the past 10 seasons, and neither alignment has led to the Green & White making a ton of TFLs ?the Jets in the last decade have averaged 36.5 stuffs per year, which easily ranks as the lowest in the league.

    Yet there are reasons for the Green & White could be registering an uptick in this category soon. One is the introduction of second-round ILB David Harris to the equation ? he had 14 stuffs as a Michigan senior. Anthony Schlegel, in his second year as a Jet, was also good at the point of attack at Ohio State.

    And another is the general progress in Year 2 of Mangini's and DC Bob Sutton's scheme. As Jonathan Vilma said before the playoff game at New England: "We're confident about ourselves individually and confident about our defense. We know we can stop anybody down the road."

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  2. NJrocket24

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    so 4 out of the bottom 6 were playoff teams? Must be doing something else right then.
     
  3. VickBlows

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    You must have forgotten about our ?soft? schedule.
     
  4. tanknyc

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    people always use Soft schedule as a attack method.. but in all reality you still have to go out there and win a game wether soft schedule hard or what ever... these are nfl players and teams and to me none of them suck its any given sunday every week.
     
  5. ScotsJet

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    Also, 4 of the bottom 4. Washington and GB just had bad defences, for the others it seems to be a product of the scheme?
     
  6. TheGreenBrickRhode

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    Isn't that 2 out of the bottom 4, with Washington and GB? Which did have bad defenses. As for the others it is the scheme all 4 play the 3-4 def, with the Jets and Cowboys being OK and NE and SD being great Defenses.
     
  7. LWC611

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    While I do not disagree with you in principle, the fact is the Jets did have a soft schedule last year and there are some years that there are teams that just suck. Last year the Raiders sucked.
     
  8. Coach K

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    people say we have a tough schedule this year. im not really all too worried about our schedule.

    only significantly tough teams on it are BAL, NE, maybe PHI(McNabb is always a question.)

    formidable teams on it are DAL, CIN, KC

    TEN (no recievers, but young is a gamebreaker, no pac man)
    PIT (Big Ben is still questionable, No Porter, New Coach, Key Players Aging)
    CLE (solid team but we can play them)
    NYG (whatever)
    WAS (Campbell looks good if he comes out this year then we might have a game)
     
  9. Carpetbagger

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    In the 3-4, it is not a good idea to penetrate into the other side of the field due to making huge holes in the rest of the defense when that player does indeed penetrate.

    I'm not saying that our defense was particulary good...but looking at the defense in that way is just stupid.
     
  10. xjets2002x

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    The Jets had a disconcerting lack of TFL's, but the reality is the stat is skewed. There are probably some teams with poor run defenses that had many more opportunities to make garbage time tackles for loss as teams were mostly running it down their throat.

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