1 Fire Mangini and his coaching staff except Westhoff. Get a coach with some passion for the game and who also knows how to communicate with players. Examples of Mangini's misfires are too numerous to list but I would say his inability to communicate with players has to be at the top. Case in point is the way he treated Keller who has had a great year minus a few mistakes. By taking him out of the game it only hurt the Jets. Deactivating VG another stupid move. You just paid him 20 million 2 Try to trade or release the following: Bubba Franks Brad Smith LC Bryan Thomas Ty law Kenyon Coleman 3 Have an open competition for QB giving Ratliff and Clemens 4 Draft a pass rusher and get some more speed in the secondary 5 Elevate Clowney on the depth Chart Do not draft a QB we have 3 QBS
Agreed, although I wouldn't mind looking at a QB. I also think we should take Lesean McCoy if he slips, TJ is getting old despite his great season. A S (Davis depending on draft position) or LB (Spikes or Sintim) in the 1st is ideal.
1 Mangini is going to stay whether we like it or not 2 LC is fine and we won't get anything by trading him 3 Agreed 4 Eric Barton is built to pass rush, so is Harris, and Gholston is too if isn't a complete bust. We have pass rushers, but for some reason we stick them in coverage. 5 Perhaps We also desperately need DBs
last i checked we drafted a pass rusher last year pretty high.. also we spent a ton of money on a pass rusher this offseason
1- i wouldn't mind seeing him go, but i wouldnt mind seeing him stay, either. as long as he learns from his mistakes. i also don't see him getting fired, either. But NEW OCs and DCs are a MUST. 2- Franks can go. Law can go. IDK about BT yet. Don't know about coleman either. we'll see. 3- agree. or mcnabb's a posibility. 4- agree. another passrusher. i'd love greg hardy or everette brown but idk if theyll fall to us. another poster already brought this up lol....i have like a mancrush on mccoy, no homo. i don't think he's comin out this year though, so next year, mccoy to the jets..... but yeh, i'd like to sign channing crowder for ILB. 5- wouldn't mind it.
How can you say deactiving Gholston was a bad move? The guy fuckin sucks, who cares how much youre paying him?
at the least, you can say that coleman's done his job at the end spot. still, i agree, he doesn't seem to bring any game-changing abilities to the table whatsoever. if mangini is still here next year (and i think he pretty much will be), i don't think he'll let go of BT. he's had plenty of opportunity to do so already, but he hasnt. and nah, we ain't set at ILB. barton's gonna be a FA, and while he was VERY solid for us this year, fact is, we just need MORE speed in that position. crowder is an all around LB. bart scott will be available too, wouldn't mind him. i'd even welcome vilma back. if mangini's gonna keep putting our LBs in coverage, might as well bring in one with some quicks, to complement what we have in DH.
I agree with pretty much everything you said. But I wouldnt be so set against drafting a QB. We dont know if Clemens, Ratliff, or Ainge are any good. I know they havent been given a fair chance but if a top rated QB was available for the Jets to take in the draft, I would strongly consider it. You can always draft a QB, let Clemens and Ratliff battle it out to be the starter and then let that QB play the whole season. If that person looks like the real deal then trade the QB you drafted. If he plays bad then go with the guy you drafted.
i agree with basically everything you said except we still should keep coles, he would be good with a different offensive coordinator/playbook, but he isnt a #1 reciever anymore.
I was going to say keep LC, but the more I thought about it I realized that there is no point. He's obviously not happy. Thing is, if we release him, then he runs to MIA with Chad. If we trade him away, we need to pull a Favre type trade and put a clause in his contract that he's not traded to MIA. I wouldn't mind Law sticking around to play backup to Lowery, and coach him up. Not personality wise, because Ty is a douche, but atleast teach him the nuances and hopefully Lowery can do them better than Law, or atleast equal to what Law was in his prime.
Mangini is full of fluff. I agree he has to go. Brian Schottenheimer, and Bob Sutton, on the other hand, are full of bullshits. They better be cut after the game this weekend. Or before the game. I don't care. Would they matter anyway? They all suck big fat balls after all. Bubba is gone after this year. So is Favre. So much for Green Bay connection. *Clowney would be the only one remaining...* I thought Ty Law was 1 year deal - need to check on that. Other than that, I think their misery is more a product of the inept coaching staff than the shortcomings of the players. I'd love to see Coles just shut the fuck up once in a while though. Either Clemens really sucks *in fact, that's hard to fathom from a second round pick, but then I've seen worse, so I wouldn't know on this one.* or the coaching staff really sucks. Hell, Matt Cassell could light up the scoreboard for the Pats. MATT CASSELL, of all QBs. That's how you coach your QB. Negative - I still remember when JAbe and Ellis played both ends for us - that line had uncanny ability to generate massive pressure on the QBs, and that basically disguised the weakness at the secondary. That's what pressure can do to the defense - making everyone better. Now Jets D have a sure-fire cog in NT - now they need to find a massive yet athletic DEs to complement Jenkins. On top of that, speed is really necessary in the LB corps, not the secondary. After another good safety (by draft) I think the secondary is set for years with Revis/Lowery/Rhodes. On the other hand, this LB corp needs replacement for 2nd ILB and another OLB, who have to be fast, yet big and strong to 1. cover the pass effectively and 2. shed the blocker and get to the ball carrier. I would think good ILB can come in 2nd round, but good OLB won't be there after 1st round. Or utilize Keller. Brett Ratliff/Kellen Clemens/Erik Ainge? Again... it's the problem of the coaching staff - they must educate the QBs to make them effective. I have my doubts with this coaching staff. They sucked with Pennington. Obviously they fucked up Kellen big time. Now they can't even get Favre to work. What good are they?
Clemens is atrocious, one of the worst QBs I have ever seen. Ratliff has potential and I'd love to groom him. Ainge is nothing to hold your breath over. I was irate when the Jets passed on Brohm in the draft (among other QBs). Mangini and Cam Cameron both wasted 2nd round picks on QBs that have poor NFL futures in Beck and Clemens. The Jets are no better at QB today than they were when Herm left in the long run i.e. without a franchise QB- Herm actually (somehow) developed an NFL QB. Mangini hasn't done that yet and he better hope/pray that Clemens is actually decent.
What!?!?!?!? Just what the hell is wrong with this board? This level of stupidity was never seen before in here. True, Pennington did play under Herm, but make no mistake. Herm didn't develop him. Herm has a tendency to stick with veterans as much as he possibly can. If Vinny doesn't injure his way out, Pennington would be riding pine. See what happened with Cotchery, when McDroppin was fucking up the game all year.
