Shonn Greene analysis

Extrememly Dismal dont u say ?

 

Wow.complete garbage. People really love to pounce on this team & its players.

Greene rushed for over 1000 yards on over 250 carries for 4.2/carry.He's average in other facets but he is the perfect 1st & 2nd down power back for this scheme.His job is to wear down the defense,move the chains & gain positive yardage. That's exactly what he does.

 

Ouch. Luckily, he's not going to be solely relied on to run the ball. Hell, the back up QB has him by 24lbs and they had an equal number of rushing td's last year. :breakdance:

 

Riveting analysis. So it was all Greene and Hunter's fault? Funny how he was negative on every running back he watched. Football writer playing scout and GM all at once.

 

1000 4.2avg on bruised ribs that lingerEd all year total Pedestrian

 

This article is stupid. How are you going to pick and choose games, then randomly pick JUST two out from last season, and then claim to be an expert on someone.

That's just stupid.

This article is trash.

 

Somehow I get the feeling that'll change this year. Maybe starting with not throwing the ball 70 times in a game?

 

Kind of a fair analysis overall though.

As I've also said, the achilles heal of Rex's regime so far has been horrid drafting...

They fall in love with Shonn Green while most pundits considered him ho-hum
They fall in love With John Conner - come on Rex that was YOUR pick? Stick to D.

Rex had to tell the World how Kyle Wilson was the best CB in that draft - RELAX GUY!!! That entire draft was a let down - Ducasse?

Local media like to spin "Locker room Leaders" "Circus Atmosphere" . Screw all that, it's ALL about drafting


Back to Shonn Greene..............UUUUGHHH!!!!!


And if he sucks, he sucks BUT, one good point by Silva - If he sucks, where is the FA signing.

In this day, you can sign FA RBs on the cheap - Heck we got LT and TJ off the heap...
So, why keep drafting mediocre RB's????

Greene better hold his own this year - Some dropped balls and a pedestrian YPC and I'll want to shoot him.

 

Because, you can watch just a few random games and tell things like - Lateral movement, Burst and how a RB takes what the OL gives him.... Even if the OL is decimated - A hole is a hole - and you can see how, if and what the RB does with even a sliver of daylight.

Look at this tape of Roy Helu- When I watched it I thought HOLD FREAKING BURST!!!! NICE CUT BACKS!!!!

http://www.twitvid.com/ABBSB


If we want to say Greene is not that type of runner - he's a plodder who wears out the Defense - Fine but, UGGGGGHHHHH!!!!! Sucks for me that my favorite team and fellow fans have to settle for a freaking Plodder.

 

Greene was a 3rd round pick. The only real bust of Rex's regime was Ducasse which is still up in the air. KW improved a lot in his second year. This is the season you can really judge him on. Mo Wilk was a great pick. This draft though I like the most of any of them. Also Slauson was a 5th rounder I think and now he is starting for us for the 3rd straight year.

 

Jet fans want HOF at every position. Guess what it is not going to happen. They just showed the top backs on the NFL network and not one not one has played in Superbowl.

Greene is a good back not a great back that should do well in a ground and pound game. 4.2 YPC is exactly where you want him to be what you would expect from a a starting back in the NFL. Can he pick up the blitz and catch the ball? Mcknight did not play because he struggled to pick up the blitz. The current crop of rookies will struggle with that also and will not play on passing downs lets hope Mcknight has improved on that.

My biggest grip with Greene is not that he is not a pro bowl player but he gets hurt a lot unless we have a capable back-up ground and pound could be in trouble when Greene gets hurt

 

I read that article yesterday and I knew if I came here I would find folks saying the article was utter trash but I see where you are coming from. Still, I think we need to wait to see what a healthy Shonn Greene can do.

Greene did play through injuries last year so I hope being healthy coming into the season will make a world of difference. Coming into last season I thought I had seen enough flashes to think he was the man for the job. It just did not pan out the way I had hoped. Even on the rare occassions he found a little daylight and picked up 8 I felt like a better running back would have got 12 easy. I have never had to play football through bruised ribs so I can't say what effect it would have on his overall ability. I just hope he proves to be the running back I saw in the playoffs instead of the rb I saw last season.

 

I don't think Greene is terrible, but an average running back. We do need to see something from McKnight, Gannaway, Powell as a solid second back. I think McKnight is going to show us a lot of things running the ball.

 

If your argument is drafting....I'm not understanding how you can complain. It takes a given prospect 3 years before you really can gauge the return. And that's in a normal year w/ no lock-out like many of Rex's classes have seen.

And take a look at the contributions..what is there to complain about?

Sanchez- Started from day 1...just as they projected. Maybe he's not the long term answer, but it's safe to say the jets were right about his natural ability & he is far from a bust.

Wilson- First round pick- Started day 1 when Revis went out..has worked his way into a solid nickel. Is far from a liability on the field, fits the scheme & is still getting better. W/ all the spread offenses in the AFC- having a solid nickel who is still young is quite the asset

Wilkerson- Started from day 1- got better w/ every game. Is poised to breakout in his second year.Tons of upside.

Ducasse-If you wanna bash this pick...more power to ya. I think it's premature considering he was drafted as a high ceiling project & he has shown some bright spots.

Greene- Contributed rookie year, became full time starter in year 2. Averaged 4.2 yards per carry and had over 1000 yards. There is room for improvement but he fits the ground & pound, and his stats suggest quality production

McKnight- Had a rocky rookie year. Contributed mostly on ST last year & nearly made the pro bowl as a returner. Can he become the full time 3RB? He has the skills

Conner- Taken in the 5TH round. Contributed both on ST and situational offensive packages in year 1, stepped up & became the starter year 2. Another player who got better w/ every game. Blocking full back who contributed from day 1 until he became a starter in year 2?Taken the in the 5the round? Why are we complaining?

Slauson- Another taken in the 5th round. Didn't play much his rookie-stepped up in year 2 & replaced a pro bowler in Faneca. Year 3 he became more outspopken & played through some serious injuries. Tough.resilient.Starter. 5th round....complaints?

Really..what am I missing here?Jets have taken players who fit their scheme, still have upside, & have contributed from year 1 on.What in the world is there to complain about? I really don't understand the draft standards some of you are looking for. It's flat out unrealistic.

 

Shonn Greene was a 3rd and a 4th and a 7th round pick. He was terrible value for that price. He may still turn it around and become a plus player in the league but as it stands he's a JAG. You give 20 guys 250 carries in the NFL and 15 of them will give you somewhere between 950 and 1050 yards.

 

I think Greene has been average so far. He's not great, not terrible. He does seem to fold up on first contact a lot.

He'd be better on a pass first team, but on a G&P team, I'm not sure he can carry the load. Maybe (like the rest of the team), he just had a bad year.

 

He got over 1000 with injured ribs, porous OL and stupid game plans. I think he will surprise people next year. Article is overly negative.

 

Sorry....I'm not buying this. 1000 yards at 250 carries is the landmark of a productive back. He hit that last season in only his 2nd year. He's big, he's powerful & he fits the scheme.

 

Stop getting so defensive. I don't think Shonn is BAD per se, but he definitely leaves a lot of yards on the field. He is not a home run hitter, and he is NOT a premiere back. Anybody who can't see that is just kidding themselves. I like him, but I need to see him improve.