Sanchez's ability to handle the blitz

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  1. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    In my opinion, this is perhaps the biggest thing holding Sanchez back from taking the next step in the quarterbacking ranks. IMO, Mark seems to panic and rush his throws when faced with the prospect of extra rushers. I've always been a firm believer that one major factor that separates truly elite NFL quarterbacks from everyone else, is their inherent ability to handle the blitz. Some of them are mobile and have a knack for escaping would be tacklers and extending plays (Big Ben, Elway, etc), while others simply possess an innate ability to make an instantaneously favorable decision along with a lightning quick release (Marino, Rodgers, Manning, etc). I've always felt that Sanchez has a fundamentally hard time making quick, accurate throws under pressure, and while he is fairly mobile, he just doesn't seem to extend plays long enough to find someone down the field, on a consistent basis.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. b.reyes16

    b.reyes16 Well-Known Member

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    What ever happened to the Sanchez running around in the backfield breaking tackles like crazy and finding someone downfield. I miss that. It was fun to watch.
     
  3. Jeti

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    check downs usually go to your TE or RB

    Cumberland wont turn his head
    Greene cant catch
     
  4. Jeti

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    Wayne Hunter left
     
  5. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, well I definitely think that missing Keller was huge today, but both teams had injuries and my comments were based more on general observations I have made over the last 3+ seasons.
     
  6. BookEndTackles 72&79

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    Bingo. If Cumberland figures out to turn his head that drive is a TD.
     
  7. b.reyes16

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    I don't know if it was that. It was missing last year too.
     
  8. al_toon_88

    al_toon_88 Well-Known Member

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    Andrew Luck has a better grasp of this in his 2nd career game.
     
  9. DRC™

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    I think Sanchez makes the right reads, his teammates didn't really help him today. On more than one occasion he threw the ball to a receiver on a blitz and the receiver wasn't looking. I think it's a chemistry/communication thing. Peyton Manning is great at reading blitzes, but he also always had receivers that knew exactly what he was going to do when the blitz was coming. You always hear them talk about how a WR & a QB can reach others mind. That is what Sanchez is missing; a receiver(s) who knows how he reacts to specific situations
     
  10. bsmooth7

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    He needs to have his feet planted to throw accurately and he also needs to wind up.

    Between these 2 factors, his release is too slow and he is too inaccurate -- he knows both of these things and doesn't want to risk interceptions so he either takes the sack or tries to throw the ball away.

    There is no replacement for superior arm strength (don't need to have your feet set) or a quick release when faced with pressure.

    One more factor is ability to visually process the field in microseconds (i.e. Peyton), another weakenss of Sanchez's that he is keenly too aware of -- thus, his confidence to make plays against the blitz is nil.

    In summary, to be a good qb under pass pressure it helps to have:

    1)Superior arm strength
    2)Quick Release
    3)High visual processing speed

    If you have all 3, you are excellent against pressure.
    If you have 2 of 3, you can be very good
    If you have 1, it depends on the specifics of the circumstances of the play to determine the probability of a completion

    If you have none of the above, you will be a bottom 5 qb against pressure.

    Scrambling ability in and of itself is a less relevant factor because all it really does is put you into position to utilize the above 3 factors.

    This is why even though Sanchez has pretty good scrambling ability, since he is 0 for 3 in the above factors it doesn't really matter very much -- unless he is able to scramble into a position that doesn't require any of the above 3 factors (can get his feet planted and has time to scan the field)
     
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  11. JoeWalton

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    How about one baby step at a time? Some professional wide outs and a thousand yard rusher will go a long way toward Sanchez being able to handle the blitz a lot better. The defenses are teeing off on Sanchez because they know the Jet's don't have jack shit in the form of quality skill position players.
     
  12. displacedfan

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    Sanchez made the correct reads today. He had no passes to defenders, and nothing close to being picked off. He has trouble fitting balls into tight windows when the pressure is near him. The throws he sailed where throws he couldn't step into. A problem a lot of QB's have actually. The reads were correct at the most point.

    The most troublesome thing was that the receivers had trouble beating the DB's. There didn't seem anytime they got past the defense and any deep ball Sanchez threw was a jump ball type scenario. They couldn't beat the press 1 vs 1 which is why you saw Sanchez going to the TE a lot on the blitz. The reads were right today, but some throws were poor and the accurate throws were dropped.
     
  13. TurkJetFan

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    i guess you missed Luck running backwards for 15 yards taking a sack on third down late in the 4th which led to the game tying touchdown drive by the vikes.
     
  14. NYJFan10

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    He started three years in college and had a former pro QB for a dad and for a college coach. Sanchez started one year in college and his big mentor has been the human jacket, Mark Brunell.
     
  15. TurkJetFan

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    besides the fact that the post you quoted is in fact not a true statement.
     
  16. laxin

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    Bingo.

    That play to Cumberland was a clear Biltz. My girlfriend even knew it. Why the fuck didnt he turn his head around???

    And Greene is a shitty RB and obviously can not block or catch.
     
  17. 85inthehall

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    Handle the blitz? You will see this week when they discuss how bad the refs are you will see the massive amount of illegal contact and holding going on down the field. Sanchez was forced to hold onto the ball longer than he would have liked because his receivers were unable to get any separation.

    Biggest play of the game in my opinion - 2nd drive - hot read to Cumberland hits him right in the back - never turned around. Instead of 1st and 10 - maybe he takes that to the house - they settle for a FG. After that play the offense went into a shell. Keller not being there was a lot bigger than I though.
     
  18. Br4d

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    Sanchez is missing a #1 WR. You can't do much without somebody you can count on to get open consistently and then catch the ball.

    Cotchery was the guy who would catch it but he had trouble getting open.
    Braylon was the guy who would get open but had trouble catching it.
    Santonio has trouble getting open and then he has bad hands.

    The Jets are going to wind up letting go of Sanchez without ever matching him with a true #1 WR, which will be a terrible shame when it happens.
     
  19. 94Abraham

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    Sanchez is just not a good QB in the NFL. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves. Watching Sanchez against a blitz is laughable. After watching Manning vs the same Steelers D + Polamalu, you can see what a good QB will do for you. Manning changed the play numerous times once he read the blitz coming and was able to hit the open man. Sanchez in year 4 still cant read a defense...
     
  20. 94Abraham

    94Abraham Well-Known Member

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    Him not having a true #1 is very debatable anyways. He has had receivers good enough to get the job done. Brady has never had a top 5 receiver except for Moss for 2 years but you dont see him complaining. Manning this year in Denver doesnt have a true #1 but he makes due with what he has.
     

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