Rebuilding year....I am still excited.....

if you're still excited as the title indicated, then why not get the nfl package?

 

I'm excited for the preseason, as we will be able to see all these rooks get some meaningful playing time.

 

well, not very meaningful, but i see your point

 

I don't believe in rebuilding years anymore. The way contracts work,your entire team could be different next year. It's compete and win now or bust.

 

I'm getting the NFL Ticket even though I'm going into the 2006 with 6-10 expectations. It will be so much fun to watch the development of D'Brick, Mangold, Brad Smith, Cotchery, the FA signings we made like Kassel, Dwight, etc. We may not win the Super Bowl this year, but it'll be a fun season to watch nonetheless.

 

well put, rebuilding years are just an excuse to use when you think your team sucks

 

Sorry but when you lose arguely 3 of your top 5 players from year before. 1 John Abraham 2. Ty Law( maybe was the ty law of old but still made ton of big plays) 3 Kevin Mawae - might have been on downside but was anchor of the offensiveline. Your going to feel it.

Now you look at what facing jets next season 1 Players have to learn two new systems on both sides of ball 2. One of the most inexperience head coaching staff, 3. going with alot of young players(they are going to make mistakes) 4. Don't have all the personal yet to run systems your coaching staff want to play(wheres olbs for 3-4, where pass rush going to come from, DO they have capable NT, and alot questions on offense) 5. Are any of the QBs any good, and 6, just the abundance of question marks everywhere.(every team has question marks but just not as many as jets). Its not going to happen overnight and its going to take a couple years before mangini can turn this around.

Your just setting tyourself up to be extremly dissapointed if you think Jets can turn it around quickly.

 

id definitely get it, I live in FL. if your a real fan you have to have it. otherwise your only guaranteed to catch one game vs the phins.


in a rebuilding yr, being what i consider someone with a good knowledge of the game, i want to analyze everything this yr and figure out exactly what kind of team mangini is fielding, then figure out where we need to go from there.


plus if u like football theres nothing better than getting EVERY single game.

 

take it from him as a raider fan he knows about how rebuilding yrs turn into 5 yr spans

 

IT depends on your roster. IF your playing with alot of old players (most likely won't be around) than it probably not rebuilding(you just stink) ,but if a large chunk of your core are very young ,than the term rebuilding is very accurate.
Look at thar Ravens defense.(1990's to 2000) They drafted defense early and often. IT didn't happen over night as it took those young players time to develope . They didn't take that defense to next level, without adding Key Veterans (R Woodson, T siragusa, S adams) to complement those young players.

 

PEOPLE!! Listen up! Jeaux is doing his doctoral thesis in NFL overhype, with a sub-study in figuring out just what the hell ol' Diaper-load Al Davis means when he says, "We're going to get back to playing 'uhRrraider foo'bawl'."

 

There no set time table when it comes to rebuilding. There alot of reasons. 1 Players sometimes take longer to develop, 2 Salary cap restrains - might be forced to keep some players/prevent from doing somethings. ETC case In Point it Took J Gruden three years of mediocrity, before he make Raiders perenial AFc big wigs. 2 AFc Championships(could have been three for not robbery of tuck game) and one superbowl appearance. I will take those down years (what you call rebuilding years) to be top dog in confrence forv years to come.

Raiders run is coming, the team is in great shape on both sides of ball.(extremly young and talented) and most pieces in place. Probably need another year for young players to gell together and put finish touches on team(should have some big money to play with in FA) Raiders are almost back and going to be the team you must go through if you want to win superbowl.(probably starting in 2007)

 

good post actually.

i wouldnt expect dominance from the raiders until the trent green and the chiefs OL finally retires.

your division is now one of the best in football with the emergence of larry johnson. 2007? give me a break, youve got to compete with the broncos, chiefs, and chargers.

if u win that division, that alone would make your team a SB contender. thing is, i dont see it happening.

in fact 3 of the 4 teams in your division are playoff quality, and guess who isnt. the raiders.

im not talking trash but the bills are a non factor, and the pats might be dropping off while the phins play catch-up. i dont see the jets going through as nearly as long of a process as the raiders have.

but thats just my optimism as a fan i guess

 

Exhibit "A".

 

First I think your overrating some AFc West teams as they all have some hugh question marks. 1 Denver has to be clear favorites( but can they get same production out of Browns old dline again) 2. San diego - taking a big gamble with P rivers at QB and secondary still has major question marks, 3 KC oline is getting up there and thatOline can regresss really fast. Without that oline lets see what L Johnson does. They haven't done enough on defense. (T green no younsters either)

Really don't care what these other teams look like, because when I look at my starting lineup ages on both sides of ball, I know these guys are going to be around for sometime. (injury aside)

LDe tom Kelly 25/T brayton 26 LDT Rashad moore 27/T sands 26 RDT W sapp 33/ A Hawthorne 24 RDe D Burgess 27/ L Johnstone 33(strictly pass rushing specialist) WLB T Howard 22/ D Bing 21/ R Thomas 25 MLB D clark 29/ K morrison 24(eventually be his job) SSLB sam williams 25
LCbN Asomugha 24, RCB F Washington 23 FS S Schweigert 24 , Ss M huff 23 With Nickel CB S routh 22


Offense LT R gallery25 , LG B sims 31, C J grove 26,RG P MCquistan 23 RT L Walker 26 TE C anderson 25 QB A Brooks 30 /A walter 24 RB L Jordan 227/J fargas 25-26 WR R moss 29, J porter 27 But bevy of talent younster behind them (D Gabriel 25, J Morant 24, 27 R curry etc)

Raiders will start one of the youngest teams on b oth sides of ball . The last few remaining players over thirty, probably won't be around next year(W sapp, L johnstone, D Clark, - all probably gone)

Going into 2006 I can't wait to see the defense they put out there.(finally R Ryan has pieces for his defense) Could make a big jump in 2006. seriously upgraded the sore spots(Way faster lb core with better coverage ability + M huff finally piece to secondary= alot harder for TEs and RB to kill Raiders. Also with more real lbs,(not DEs trying to play lb) they don't have to play big nickel defense(cover up for fact that they had no LBs that could cover), where it was easier to run against.

Maybe iM a homer but i really believe the Raiders are that far off. Time will tell if I smoking something or right on mark.

 

Your R?idi?rs set the league record for fewest interceptions last year and were standing in the pee of 31 other teams. A "big jump" would be respectability. And good luck with that.

Naaaaaaaaaawww!!! Put that thought right out of your head, big boy!

 

Yeah,you're right. After I posted that i started thinking about what I could do to get the season cancelled.

 

There's nothing wrong with taking a year to get the chaff off of the roster and bring in some young players to revitalize the team.

The offensive line in particular is not a unit that you can fix by just bringing in a vet or two to add to your base of already aging vets. If it was the Jets would have been just fine after adding Dave Szott in 2002 and Pete Kendall in 2004. Instead bringing those vets in just postponed an inevitable rebuild job until the line collapsed.

Now, if you can import good young players like Randy Thomas and Kareem McKenzie then you might be able to get around a full blown rebuild of the line. If the Jets had chosen to spend their money on the future of their offensive line 3 or 4 years ago they would not be in forced rebuild mode now.

Curtis Martin has been a great player for the Jets and had a great year in 2004, however the Jets record with him in the lineup since they renegotiated him in 2001 is 37-39. In the last 3 years, the period when the offensive line deteriorated due to salary cap constraints caused in part by his contract, the Jet's record was 18-26 with him in the lineup. The Jets should have let Curtis go instead of renegotiating him and kept their young line strong by signing the players to timely contracts instead of allowing them to hit free agency and driving their prices through the roof.

The Mawae and Chrebet contracts were also harmful to the Jet's salary cap and the annual renegotiations of Vinny's cap burden didn't help either. The bottom line though is that the Jets chose to let their offensive line collapse so they could keep around an aging collection of vets, led by Curtis, and as a result the team collapsed.

Whether you believe in rebuilding years or not it's pretty clear that the Jets were going to have real problems this year whether they were rebuilding or not. Personally I'm glad they're using the lost year to rebuild.