Reality Check

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Fleming, May 1, 2006.

  1. Fleming

    Fleming New Member

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    Everybody is going overboard grading the Jets a B to A on their results this weekend.

    I'm not saying Mangenembaum did a bad job at all but take it easy, folks. It could have been better, especially in round 3.

    It definitely suffered from a lack of imagination and movement.

    Let's go from the top. Brick and Gold are solid picks but we may never be close enough to get a Leinart or especially a Bush again. The argument made by some who used to claim that we were close is that we had to play it conservative b/c we lack depth and talent. Which theory do they really believe?

    Let me break down the good to bad in their draft:

    Great: acquire a 2nd rounder next year by moving down with the dopey deadskins in Round 2. Great, great move.

    Good: Line is rebuilding quickly, two best at their positions acquired

    OK: Clemens. Nobody knows what this guy really is. He was a very late riser who would have been picked in the 2nd by the Vikes if the Jets didn't grab him but I still think he's a reach for anybody that high.

    Fair: Day 2, we have a tiny RB, a project QB and some lineman

    Bad: Where's the pass rush coming from? How about another decent WR option. We can't go in with this current crop.

    Really, really bad: schlegel and Smith in Round 3. There had to be better WR's and pass rushers on the board. These two are slowish Big Ten backups and special teamers at best.

    On the whole a B draft which is good but let's not go nuts ala Brandon Tierney etc.
     
  2. JetInAbsentia

    JetInAbsentia New Member

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    I think you should do a little research into Schlegal, Clemmens, Brad Smith and Eric Smith. You'll find these guys could be real contributors on this team, far beyond "special teams". Brad, for example, is not a "project QB" on the Jets; he's not even a QB.
     
  3. vilmatic

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    I think BRad Smith is the WR option, not Qb
     
  4. rillo

    rillo New Member

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    HATE HATE HATE.....cant please everyone, compare it to other drafts we had....A in my book
     
  5. JetInAbsentia

    JetInAbsentia New Member

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    I don't think Fleming was hating, though I agree with the grade.
     
  6. dabrowsk1

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    Brad Smith is going to be a WR, ala Randel El (sp?). He is going to be a WR/RB/Qb hybrid of sorts. Gives you a lot of options on offensive.

    Schlegal is a proven leader and just plan badass. You need that kind of slobber-knocker on the team and in the LB mix. I think he is going to bring an attitude into the LBers and may turn into a Vrabel down the road.

    I am not thrilled with the TE they picked up. I know he will probably be a FB, but I really didn't see the need to take him.

    Eric Smith and Coleman are iffy. I don't know much about them. But the DBs needed a little depth, so this wasn't horrible. I am going to reserve judgement on these 2 until I see them play.
     
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    JetInAbsentia New Member

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    Coleman's the only pick I'm out and out puzzled by.
     
  8. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    That is saying very little & is a silly analogy at best. When was the last time you heard or saw OLman lead there team to a SB?
     
  9. floridajet

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    The point of the TE pickup was to use him as one of the, if not biggest, FB's in the NFL. He can single handidly offset a breakdown in the O-Line during a certain running play with his size. Also believe they are going to have him gain 10 more pounds.
     
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    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    Ogden, Pace & Jones were all anchors of SB lines.. I'm sure there are more, these are the current easy ones..
     
  11. dabrowsk1

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    Then why not just draft a RT to help the run better? There were a couple still on the board. Another OL, or a DE would have been better IMO. Out of the 10 picks, this is the only one that I didn't like or at least understand. Seems more of a luxury pick.
     
  12. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    your entire post is useless because its not a one year fix....how many times must that be said before people like you can understand???perhaps the areas that you feel we didnt fix will be addressed nest year...i'll say it again....its not a one year fix
     
  13. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    how about the dallas cowboys of the early nineties champ???what do you think was the biggest reason they were so dominant???emmit?troy?irvin???nah dude o-line....how can you watch football for 50 years and still not understand the importance of an offensive line????best part of the steelers team last year champ???ill give you the answer...offensive line....i have a better question for all of you who dont think the oline wins games.....when was the last time a team won a superbowl with a shitty o-line?????
     
  14. Fleming

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    This is the part of the Jets draft where they faltered. We should have done better than Schlegel and Smith. We have a bunch of safeties like Smith on the roster. I would have gone Max Jean-Gilles with one of the thirds and taken a pass rushing DE or OLB for the 3-4 with the other.

    Schlegel sounds to me like a perennial backup.
     
  15. Section 227. Row 5

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    According to the Star-Ledger, Mangini said this about him after viewing films of A.J. Hawk:

    "Schlegel kept showing up and showing up," Mangini said. "It's something when you go to watch one player and the other guy keeps making tackles... He's an impressive guy... you want to play with a guy like that." Perennial backup?
     
  16. DonnieIsTheKing

    DonnieIsTheKing Active Member

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    So you're saying we would have been better off replacing our soft armed QB with amazing accuracy and a history of shoulder injuries with a soft armed QB with amazing accuracy and a history of elbow injuries?
     
  17. rillo

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    Never.....just a good teams that win superbowls......and everything starts with the Oline and thats how you build a good team
     
  18. Section 227. Row 5

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    It all starts with the lines. Show me a team with excellent lines and I'll show you a team with excellent prospects of winning championships. Put another way, you can't win championships WITHOUT good lines.
     
  19. rillo

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    WORD UP!!! thanks for the backup :finssuck:
     
  20. SI_Jets_Fan

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    Well we do have Askew, but can you say Lorenzo Neal? Looks like Schotsy is going with the SD model. And as a TE, he can probably catch the ball on the rare occasion he is not leading Curtis between the tackles. I don't think Zack Thomas is going to like our draft much!!!
     

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