MSNBC ranks Herman Edwards first and Eric Mangini ninth of all the new HC's. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13189815/
Of course Herm should succeed more than any other new coach, he has the best team. What he does with it we will find out.
Frankly, who gives a crap. Shall we go back and look at what people said about Cowher, Gruden, Holgrem, Parcells in their first years, or what they said about BB when he took over the Pats after his record with the Browns? 1) Herm is the media's bitch, 2) He is going to a team with an explosive offense and barely missed the playoffs last year (even though they are getting old fast), and 3) Even though you have to question his abilities in game time situations, he has more NFL HCing experience than Mangini. Another meaningless and completely irrelevant post about an obscure article, that you just had to post because when taken without any intelligent thought it can be percieved as a negative against the new FO. You are so transparent it is not even worth the time anymore.
I wouldn't be to excited about the Chiefs. The team is quite old. Their two best players and almost lock 1st ballot HoF's Sheilds and Roaf are on the verge of retirement, the defense is bad, the AFC west divsion is very tough, and the Cheifs could get old fast. Like the Jets team Herm took over this team may require immediate rebuilding. It was Herm's second year with the jets when we had to completely overhaul the team. The same thing may happen in KC next year. I don't like the Cheifs future. In terms of Mangini rating a 9th who cares. I could care less how he is rated against other coaches. What matters is the progress the Jets make this season. You may hate Mangini and think it was a terrible move getting rid of Edwards but whats done is done. We will most likley be much a worse team for many years because of it. But again its done and isn't it better to hope for the future than dwell upon the mistakes of the past. In thread after thread you cry about the coaching change. Being a Jet fan generally means bad thinbgs will happen. Let it go. With our luck Edwards will most likely win 5 super bowls and be a HoF coach but who cares it does not effect us. My advice would be to let it go and hope for the best in the coming years. While this may arguably be the most talented team the Jets have had since the 2000 season no one is expecting much with the QB questions and new CS. The real test for Mangini will be whether or not the Jets can be contenders in 2007 not 2006. I hope Edwards and the rest of the people on that list do well. But I care much less how they do in comparison to how Mangini and the Jets do this year.
You mean least talented team, right? You can't seriously say this team is more talented than any team since 2000.
I based my statement on a position by position analysis. It really just depends on which year you want to use as a comparison. We could look at any year but I think the 2004 team was the most talented one we have had since 2000. The 2002 team had 7 defensive starters that if not on the Jets would have had a hard time making another NFL roster. We did not have a NFL backup worthy DB. The only players that could have started for another NFL team were Cowart, Abraham, Ellis and Ferguson. The 2002 team was arguably was the least talented team in the league that year. As was the 2003 team. Rather lets look at 2004. By 2004 we had time to rebuild the team a little on defense. I consider the team that started the 2004 season to be the most talented team we have had since 2000. Comparing our team this year to 2002 and 2003 is to easy we are better now than at almost every position. 2004 is much more of a close call. So comparing the 2006 team to the 2004 team looked like coming into the season position by position below is how I have us rated with upgrades and downgrades. Here is a position by position comparison between the 2004 and 2006 teams prior to the season starting. Defense: 1. Dyson over Abraham 2. Rhodes over Toungue 3. Coleman over the rookie Coleman 4. Vilma over Cowart 5. Barret over the Barret that started 2004 coming off a very bad 2003 season. 6. Hobson over Hobson More experience and better player. 7. Robertson over Robertson Robertson came off a very disappointing 2003 season. Upgrades Offense 8. Coles over Moss 9. McCairens over Mcareins Although McCareins While not coming off a good year he has much more experience and is more proven than the player who entered the 2004 season. 10. Ferguson over Fabini. Anyone over Fabini is an upgrade. His entire career he has been a walking turnstile. 11. Moore over Moore. While neitehr are good a 2 year bad evteran is better than a player coming into a season with no expereince. 12. Nugent over Brien 13. Graham over Gowin Tie. Barton vs Barton. Coming off a dissapointing 2003 season ve coming off a injury riddled 2005 season. Expections are not good for either season. Arguably we have higher expectations for Barton this year in 2004 but the difference is neglible. Downgrades 1. Ellis over Ellis 2. Ferguson over whoever is our NT 3. Abraham over whoever is our DE 4. Pennington over Pennington or Ramsey 5. Martin over Martin 6. Sowell over Askew 7. Becht over Baker and Jolley 8. Mawae over Mangold or Teague 9. Kendell over Kendell 10. McKenzie over Jones 13-10-1 We have more depth now than we have had in a long time and better starters. Both teams were very young but we have more talnted younger players now. The younger players we took a chance on in 2004 now have more experience. But like I said in previous post better talent doesn?t win games without good QB play. With a new system, question marks at QB and a new inexpereinced CS the odds are against us. But good QB play can solve a lot.
:lol: Did you even read what you posted??????? HE has the best team - that's all....... He's also got the Biggest possible fall and if that team doesn't make the playoffs he's going to have to come up with some snappy Press Conferences to at least entertain some people.
This article is ridiculous. Read what he says about the Vikings unloading Culpepper: "Fortunately, Childress still has Brad Johnson under center, and the wily Johnson could be a better fit in adapting to the new offense. He’s 38, so the future is now, but the NFC North is a good place for old quarterbacks to shine." ....right. I'm sure everyone in Minnesota has spent the last 2 months saying "well, Culpepper was all right, but thank God we still have Brad Johnson."
You guys are all giving this reject exactly what he wants. Wouldn't it be great if NOONE responded to any of Rajensen threads.
Hey, There is ALWAYS a "Rajensen"..... It' snot about him as much as it is the role he fills. He may be too young to know it but, every year someone wants to play the role of the antagonist..... Sometimes I enjoy Laughing at the Antagonist when he can't even make a logical debate point or clearly read what he's posting. Wether he admits it or not, he must feel like the biggest idiot when he's so WRONG. :lol:
This doesn't surprise me. If I were writing the story, I'd probably do the same thing. Why? Because when you don't have a track record as an HC, then those who think Mangini is better than #9 have no fodder to make an argument. It's easier to discount the new guy than discount an old guy like Herm. If I were in a court of law, however, I wouldn't be using this article as the central piece of evidence in my case to dismantle Mangini's coaching ability. Therein, my friend, rests your fault.
Frankly, I'm surprised Mangini isn't ranked dead last in this thing. He has the least experience out of everyone. Herm had a couple of winning seasons and inherited one hell of a team.
