OK I need to post this because honestly, this has been getting on my nerves. I am sick and tired of people questioning Chad's arm strength, or any QB's arm strength for that matter. There are much more important factors that make up a quaterback. Many people here say Chad can't come back because of his arm strength. Maybe he'll be at 100%, maybe he won't, but does it really matter all the much you guys point it out to be? First off, arm strength really only comes into play when making that long bomb, that hail mary. But to be honest, there are more factors to that even. You can watch many many starting quaterbacks throw the long one and they almost always overthrow it. If anything, they should have less arm strength and more accuracy when doing that. Because alot of the QB position is accuracy. Arm strength dosen't matter if they went to the left a little and now the opposition is running back an interception. And desicion making is a big factor two, knowing when to throw it, and where. That's alot more important than arm strength. Now I know Pennington wasn't really strong to begin with, and chances are he will be alot weaker now, especially in the beginning. But I'm tired of these just ignorant posts that give him zero chance at all just because of his arm strength. Its ignorant. We know what he CAN do. We've seen what he CAN do when he's in there. We all remember 2002. And as long as there is the proof that he CAN win games, then there is still a chance that he CAN win games. Its not like he's some blowover that never had a good season. Give him some credit guys, because seriously, you give him too little. Sorry but that really needed to be said.
Arm strength is key on out routes, if the QB cant get the ball there quickly, the DBs have way to much time to react and stop many plays...
Out routes and throwing in the wind.(read Meadowlands). Its not all about armstrentgh, but some of it is.
Yeah you right, I should have put not all about armstrength in the title. But the fact remains so that the amount of weight people here put on it is ridiculous.
If arm strength didn't matter, than Danny Wuerfell would be coming off his 10th straight pro bowl season.
There are 32 QB's in the NFL. This is the elite level of the game. Arm strength coupled with a quick release is one of many ingredients that go into being a great QB. When your facing elite defenses you need a strong arm. Very often you're not going to be able to set your feet and throw a 12 yard forward pass that has to travel 25 or 30 yards up and across the field. Having good arm strength puts much more pressure on the better defensive teams. It allows a QB under pressure to open up the entire field in an instant. Without those two ingredients the field the D has to cover shrinks dramatically. The NFL today has turned into a coaches game for the most part. Coaches are willing to sacrifice a potentially great QB for someone who will be an extenssion of the coach on the field. That works up to a point, the point is the 1 game elimination against a really good defensive team.
Now that I'm thinking about it: Elway had a cannon arm Marino had a cannon arm Favre had a cannon arm Kelly had an above average arm Young had an above average arm Moon had a cannon arm in his prime Aikman had an above average arm Namath had a canon arm in his prime.. eh, I'll stop there, the only QB off the top of my head that I can think of who didn't have at least what is concidered a strong arm is Montana. It seems like he's the exception, not the rule here.
Arm strength hey i agree arm strength is not always the most important thing, but you need to be able to deliver the ball with some zip. Last season even before the second torn shoulder Chad couldnt complete a 10 yard pass. We dont need him to throw 40 yard bombs all day but we need him to throw the 10-15 yard out with out getting it picked off. Being able to make smart decisions is the 1st step, now he needs to complete the pass to someone in a green and white jersey.
If the Jets play the Eagles this year, I can see lots of his passes getting completed to green and white jerseys:breakdance:
I didn't see anyone complaining about arm strength when we beat the pants off the Colts 41-0 in Jan. '03. I didn't see anyone complaining about arm strength when Chad had that "privilege" game (har) against Seatle in '04, and ditto the SD game in the PO's (and his shoulder was troubled since Buffalo, mind you). Last year he was the walking wounded before he took the field. It's a poor comparative. Arm strength alone is a great thing to have. Just ask Browning Nagle. Hehehe. Arm strength to a fashion, football(s) smarts, accuracy are what add up to a total package. Intangibles always matter. Just ask Tom Brady (that b*stard).
i complained during the SD game... he couldnt complete an 8 yard dump pass and almost cost them the game... the Jets got lucky in winning that game.
Why take the chance on a QB who has had 2 major shoulder injuries and a broken wrist, he just might be a bit to fragile. but do you honestly believe that Chad can go full strength and be what he was when he first took over for Vinny. If they have a legitimate shot at Leinart, then they have to take it.
No, I'd say Barton almost cost us the game. But OK, it was our day. Since when are the Jets sitting behind a win over a missed FG? BAH, and I was editing up there and got caught with my pants down. Damn it. :lol:
Defenses were beginning to expose Chad's lack of arm strength. Chad's saving grace was the running game setting up his beautiful play action ability. Now that the running game blows... The Pats just clogged the middle on us and offered him the out all day.I was there at that game and got to witness the 4 picks. It's a copycat league. You can bet that if Chad is our opening day QB it ain't gonna be pretty this season.
Arm strength means alot, stop kidding yourself. Half of a second means a interception, deflected pass, or completion. Thats why they have the west coast offense which are dink and dunk passes that one does not need arm strength. But if you have a QB with a strong arm you can use any playbook, use any play, and confuse the living shit out of the defense, and i think that would win more games.
I think a QB's release, and their footwork (which will greatly help their arm strength) is more important than just having a natural gun. But when I look at a QB, how naturally strong their arm is, is one of the last things I look at. You can really improve a QB's arm strength just by changing their release, motion, and footwork.
And if arm strength was the most imnportant factor guys like Jeff George and Ryan Leaf would have been HOFers. Give me a smart QB w/ a good arm over an diiot w/ a cannon any day. Chad WITH a torn rotator cuff played very well in lading us to win at 12-4 SD. The reasons it went to OT were b/c brien missed a 31 yd FG earlier in the game and the Barton penalty. Yep, thsoe D's caught on when he had 12 TDs in 5 games after coming back from the wrist inb '03 then they really caught on when he had a 100+ rating before getting hurt at Buf in '04. Chad pre-injury did not have the strongest arm in the World BUT it was strong enough and he could make all the trhwos necessary. Now is a different story, can he build it back up? None of us know, if not it's going to be a struggle but prior to the injury he was a top QB in the game. and that can be picked up by great anticipation of where your receiver will be and accuracy and those 2 areas Chad was phnomenal in.
Its funny you said you would take a smart QB with a average arm over a strong arm QB who is stupid, true. But what about if the QB has a strong arm and is intelligent? Brett favre, peyton manning, dan marino, you would take chad over those guys? You just turned the argument and switched it up. Read my prior post.^
