I was thinking recently of the benefits of practicing against a Belickick defense and the 3-4 in general while the 4-3 has been in vogue the last few years. If you look at the quick decision making and cool under pressure for a guy like Tom Brady I wonder if he has just seen everyting in the book already in PRACTICE! Belickicks schemes are the most complicated in the NFL, breaking down "smart" qb's like Penny and Manning. I remember when we were still singing the praises of Penny and then he threw 5 interceptions against the Patriots. My question is this. How big of a factor do you think it is in the development of the QB to go against this defense? Could it be that practicing against this D made Brady the Qb that he is? Rothlesberger also practices against a complex 3-4 scheme. Carr doesnt count because their defense was never good! Do you think this can be a positive for our young QB's? Practicing against this D sure didnt help Beldsoe from sucking but he might have been too stuck in his ways. Perhaps this is the plan with Clemens. It would make an intersting story. Penny is the overpaid vet just like Bledsoe was while Clemens sits and learns to play against the most complicated scheme in the NFL and then steps up needed. The only difference is we wont be able to get a first rouder for Penny! Im not saying Clemens is the next Brady, just that this scheme might raise the potential of the QB's on the roster by inproving decision making and breaking down defenses. What do you think?
dude i dont know what you are talking about i like Kellen Clemens as a QB i think he is the Jets future QB thats all.
im busting your balls, dont let them get to you, if you have faith in a player thats fine. mines leon washington being that i live in FL now and am a FSU fan oh and watching him play in person.
Once you get into the season, quarterbacks don't practice against their own defense. They're practicing against a scout team that's running your opponents defense. As a result the only time you see your own D is in training camp and I don't think that's enough time to have much of an effect either way.
Hows that? You learn your ENTIRE playbook in training camp. It is when MOST of the learning takes place. True after that you gameplanning for other teams HOWEVER the second team O is playing the FIRST team D so the backup is playing against the belickick scheme. Brady played against the scheme in training camp and ALL year against it in practice with the second team O. IMO that is the best preparation in the NFL for a QB and it would seem Clemens will have the same privelage (unless he is forced into action early).
It's all what the player makes of it. It can help him, but it's also not going to make or break a quarterback. It will benefit him but it will also give him less experience against 4-3 and cover 2 defenses. It should help his decision making and reads quicker though.
Except that he's not playing in his own offense. He's playing whatever offense the Jets are playing against that week. It's tough to learn your own job while you're busy learning and imitating someone else's scheme. That's why training camp is so important. It may be the only time this year that Clemens gets to play in the Jets offense.
Do you honestly think that NFL teams prepare there backups that poorly. "oops we have an injury send in the backup...but coach I only know the other teams playbook!". Backups get plenty of work in indiidual drill and 7 pm 7's each week. True once they get to the team scrimmage they are running mock plays BUT they are still doing so against the 3-4 patriots scheme so they have to breakdown the defense mentally. If anyting that is better preparation. You are running an unfamiliar play against a complicationed defensive scheme with less talented personnel. But the entire Jets offense will be doing that this year anyways. Playing against tough defenses in the east, with a new offense, and below average personnel!
umm the 4-3 hasnt been in vogue since the early 90s.. its just the most simplestic so alot of teams use it as a base. 3-4 is in 'vogue' if you'd like to call it that and before that it was a lot of 46 and cover 2/4 , etc
I think that it may have a positive affect on a QB, but it's the coaches that have the greatest input. Belichick has always spent a lot of time with Brady. Who better to break down a defense for a QB than BB (or any defensive-minded coach that can teach)? From published reports, mangini has been spending a lot of tiem with the Jets QB's, likely doing the same thing. "If you see this, what do you do"? Then proceed to breakdown all the variables on film.
the world doesnt revolve around the patriots, tom brady was a crapshoot that played well into the Pats hands. as far as I'm concerned the Patriots should send Mo Lewis some SB rings. and im not trying to take away anything from brady hes a top 3 qb in the league. but if the staff had the slightest inclination that brady was as good as he is, bledslow wouldnt have been playing. we could practice against the patriots d all we want that doesnt change the actual person throwing the ball. if your talented you can handle any d. how about we watch a jets qb put up td's on any defense? cuz i havent seen it in over a yr
