Or we could give our multimillion dollar franchise quarterback one more chance to see if he can be the '02 or even the '04 Chad, and let Clemens learn from him on the bench so he and the team are even better in the future. I think KC will be a very good QB in the future, but lets not go calling him Joe Montana just yet (we've learned from that) as he's been playing against 2nd and 3rd stringers.
And just to add to the top post. If you watched the game tonight you saw that Kellen Clemmens was not ready to start. He lacked the accuracy that we need out of our QB. He just didn't look great agians 2nd stringers.
omg is this guy retarted. CLEMENS WILL NOT BENEFIT FROM STARTING. he will learn more from the bench... i mean look at carson palmer and tom brady both of them didnt play first year and got a little time in their second year before being absolute star starters in their third year
yes getting a inexpirenced QB killed with a Young inexpirenced OL, question marks at RB,WR,TE,FB and every other offensive position possible will really bode well for our future...Chad starts no questions asked.
Yeah,lets start Clemens now when he is not ready so he can look horrible and then never get his chance.
I would much rather have Clemens sit for 2-3 years and soak up enough knowledge so that when he plays he is ready to play. To many QB's are just thrown into the NFL withoiut having any idea what they are doing. Before you know it they are damaged mentally and physically and of worth to know one. Clemens was taken as a project QB one that would have to learn for 1-2 years before he would be ready to play. Give the man time to sit and learn. I love what the Jets did with Chad sitting him the bench for three years. While that may have been more motivated by how poorly he did in practice (remember Curtis' statements in 2002 that the players watched Chad in practice and to a man they thought no way could this kid play in the NFL beciase of his weak arm) than anything else but it benefited Chad greatly when he got his chance to play. Let the kid sit and absorb and give the line a couple years to gel. There is no use taking the chance of injuring this kid physcially or mentally by rushing him onto the field. Two years from now I would love to see Clemens still be the QB of the future then having to draft another QB of the future because we rushed him out of the gate.
Clemens will start this season! Two ways this will come about: 1st we suck so bad that after 8 loses we start Clemens in hope of getting a spark to our non scoring offense. 2nd Chad get hurt once again and we officially declare the season over and start Clemens to get him experience for next season.
While I think Clemens should start in 07 I think he should definantly take a seat this year. It seems we are following a plan similar to the way Crennel is doing it in clevelend. Drafting a midround QB who has adequate tools and good intangibles and building a team around him. Like Charlie Frye, Clemens should stay on the bench to start. This whole team, starting at QB, is stocked with question marks , which is a plus and a minus. Maybe Chad will rebound and be the Chad of 02. Maybe he will falter. Either way, starting Clemens day one will only set him back IMO
Rebuilding can be many things. Starting Clemens would hurt this team. There's other players on offense ya know? I don't want them to suffer. Pennington is our man.
Why does everyboey forget how good he was in 2004. I'll take the 2004 Pennington as the Jet QB anyday.
Sure, lets start Clemmens, which in a not so subtle way, will tell the rest of the team and all the fans that the 2006 season is a wash. Real ingenious.
That was a great season. Pennington really shined and looked like one of the best QB's in the league. Then the Raiders showed the league the blueprint for beating him and everyone has been immitating it since. It's simple and it's been stated on here a number of times, but basically all opposing defenses need to do to make Pennington ineffective is bring the secondary up into the 15 yard box Pennington makes most of his passes into. Because he doesn't have the strong arm to zip passes into tight spots this is very effective. Obviously more people in the 15 yard box means smaller passing lanes. Without a dominating running attack to help sell the play-action he is so good at, the defense has one less thing to worry about making it even easier to attack his weakness. He's definitely a smart QB, he's definitely a great leader, and he definitely is going to be making the best decisions among our QB's. Unfortunately, he doesn't have the physical tools to beat the best defenses in the NFL. He may be able to manage a game, dinking and dunking passes and not making big mistakes but he's never going to be the guy that puts the team on his shoulders and wins big games against the best teams - not without a dominating defense to help him out. Clemens may not be NFL ready right now mentally, but he has shown the ability to learn quickly in college. 3 different offenses in 3 years. Yeah I know it's college, not NFL, but the point I'm making is that he has the capability of learning how to play in the NFL quickly. One of the main reasons we drafted him is said to be because he "wowed" the CS with his X's and O's intellegence. He also seems has the physical tools that a big time NFL QB needs. So if you're willing to accept the fact that Penny is just not capable of taking a team to the superbowl, then wouldn't the decision to start Penny be like "throwing the season away"? Clemens is the only QB on this roster that seems to have the capability to win it all IMO. Starting rookie QB's is frowned upon by many, I respect your opinions on that, but disagree. I don't care what anyone says, there is no better way to learn than by doing something. Could it ruin his confidence? I think he has the intellegence to overcome that and understand their is a lot to learn. Could he get injured? Yeah but he could get injured walking onto the field by a mascot driving a golf cart. You can't not play a healthy NFL player because you're worried they might get injured, that's a risk every NFL player takes every snap. Kellen is our QB of the future, put him on the field now - Penny can give him tips on the sideline when we're on defense.
Sorry to say this, but I am getting so sick of this argument. First, get your fact right. Oakland beat the Jets in 2002 and not 2004. After that Oakland playoff loss when the league "figured him out", Pennington went 4-5 with a bad Jet team in 2003 and led them to the playoffs in 2004 and a playoff win. I guess the Chargers didn't watch the film of the 2002 Oakland playoff game before the 2004 playoff game against the Jets. If there is a formula for beating Pennington, why doesn't it work? Why did he beat good defensive teams in 2003 such as Tenessee. Why did he beat Oakland in 2003 if they knew how to beat him. How did the Jets manage to win 11 games in 2004 when the formula was out. Football is just not that simple. Why does this opinion of a "formula" not apply to other QBs. Did New England expose Peyton Manning by beating him like a drum in the playoffs all those years. Did Pittsburgh provide the formula for beating Manning with their win last year in the playoffs? What both teams did was put pressure on Manning and he became ineffective. But that is the formula for beating EVERY QB in the NFL, not just Pennington. As for the need for a running game and a dominant defense, that has been the formula for winning in the NFL for as long as I have been watching - 40 years now. Very few teams win SB without both or at least one (usually the defense). What team won a SB on the strength of the QB alone? Elway didn't win a SB until he had a running game and a defense. Had the league figured him our before that??? Go down the list of SB champions and tell me who wins without a defense or a strong all around team. Pennington may not be the QB that can lead the Jets to a SB, but to say that one playoff game 4 years ago ruined his career and showed the league how to defense somebody is just a little naive and simplistic.
